We are thinking of removing the GD forum

If you are in favor of this, answer yes in the poll. If not, answer no.

I guess it’s just the smart ass in me but I have to say…
Answer Know or No?

Long day. Thanks for the correction.

I like the news and politics. I think the BS needs to be moderated out.

I vote for No.

Everyone is allowed one mistake right? Have a good day.

I voted Yes simply because in order to moderate the BS out you would need way too many folks focusing on that and it’s not needed. There are plenty of GD forums around. My 2 cents.

I voted no, I think a stricter emphasis on keeping general discussion things in GD would be superior. The membership should be expected to keep things relatively civil here, and first hand on the technical side.

There are things that I believe would worm their way into the technical forums without it’s existence, and it’s significantly less appalling to see BS posted there. There are other things that aren’t technical in any way, but that I believe have a place on M4C. I also imagine advertisers appreciate the traffic GD creates.

ETA:With that said, it’s encouraging to see that the site staff and moderators are determined to help M4C return to it’s roots.

Even though I’m party responsible for this movement, I actually say “no”.

What I would prefer is something like a 200 post count required to post there. I think that 200 is high enough that nobody is just going to spam the forum with “+1” just to post there, and if they were that would be rather obvious (and sadly pathetic) and they would be banned.

I enjoy discussing general topics with those that I “know” here from time to time on a limited basis, like the gearheads thread, but am less interested in some dickwad that wanders in, posts a question about which YHM rail looks cooler for his safe queen in the AR section and then waddles over to GD to engage the regulars with inane shit.

I completely agree, I don’t see GD contributing to the strength of this site which is technical information on the AR platform and other firearms.

Rob’s idea seems like an ideal solution to me. Those who remain through 200 posts in other forums are much more likely to be civil and have an understanding of the primary focus of M4C which is No-BS first hand information.

I vote no because this forum is pretty much the only one I frequent. It is nice to get technical information as well as the odds and ends you get in GD.

The GD seem rife with BS in my opinion. Hell I may even be guilty of starting a thread or two seen by others as BS. Hopefully not.

While I get the idea of having a general discussion area it seems the preponderance of topics most likely to get peoples hackles up is the GD.

Having an area that is a repository for randomness may well invite foolish BS. On the other hand its also a place some folks who feel the need to just be social or heard or genuinely have an off topic question can seek input from others who’s opinions they respect.

Therefore the question becomes; is it worth having? In my opinion…NO.

I can easily be nauseated and or chatty on another site. This one is one where I come for an elevated intellect. Not general babble about whatever.

If you have data, questions or input on the given topic areas then go there search them for your answer if that’s the case, or start a thread of value or (Heaven forbid) respond intelligently to threads already up and running.

One hates to mistakenly create a snobbish forum … Or do they? Is there anything wrong with having a standard? Is there anything wrong with elitism?

This site is primarily a resource, not a social network. Or at least that’s what I felt it was and is why I joined up.

I voted YES to dumping the GD. Because of posts like these:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=25571
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=54659
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=54657
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=54698
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=50357

Car talk, Robot Dogs, ObamaCare, The oil spill in the Gulf…WTF??? The list obviously goes on and is more than likely the reason for this vote/ thread.

Two questions do need to be asked here however:

  1. If the Title suggests something stupid; WHY ARE YOU READING IT?
  2. Isn’t this like a TV? If you don’t like what you’re looking at change it.

I could get behind the idea of keeping the GD and implementing Rob_S’s idea about the 200 post count minimum. Hell I’m less than the 200 post count and I would like to think that all 160 some posts were at least worth reading if not helpful. Make them earn it.

And definitely bounce the “+1” BS’ers.

Im an FNG, I know just enough to stick my nose in where it dont belong, might be doing so here. I think the GD forum is a good place for talking about current events, news, politics etc. Where would Irishluck post about all the people using guns legally to defend themselves (and the idiots)? I think M4C is the best place for defensive firearms, tactics, and training, and will remain so thanks to our SMEs, IPs, LEOs, Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Coasties and just plain private citizen members. We have boneheads (me?) but everywhere does, I think that there should be a place to B.S. around the fire with a beer so to speak, with like minded people, if thats not GD where does it belong? Does it even belong here in the first place?, I think so, everyone should be able to speak freely and have a place to do so in especially here, thats GD. Freedom of speech people.

I agree with you.

There are also users that you rarely, if ever see outside of the GD forum. Why join a gun forum if you don’t want to talk about firearms? I’m not trying to knock anybody. Just a thought.

I vote yes. Can we keep the “Dumbest Things Overheard at the Gun Shop” thread, though? I get a kick out of it.

I vote no and I really like rob s’ solution to the problem.

Does not exist on a privately owned message board.

Well, in my case for all the techinical stuff, what I don’t already know, I search and read, there is no reason for me to post. So, most of my posts are in GD, however I am not and have never been on any other forum a “+1er”. Sure, I’ve typed it a few times along with a quote if I completely agree with someone’s eloquently, and succinctly posted response, but I don’t think that is frequent for me.

As a new member, I think the GD forum here is a great deal more valuable than some firearm specific sections on other forums due to the high number of members who know what they are talking about and putting their personal experience in it. Threads about conflicts, politics, laws, etc. have much more meaning when you get the input of experienced members without violating OPSEC.

I also voted no. I like rob’s idea. I was definitely one of those people with there head up their @$$ when I first joined on here and it took me a while to realize that.

I also think that people’s responses to the stupid posts in the GD forum are a way for folks to learn what NOT to do on here. Sure it’s annoying, but it’s not that much of an inconvenience and if you don’t want to read it, then don’t.

I don’t know if it would be possible to find a fairly light punishment for doing something amazingly stupid (personal attacks etc.). Something like getting banned for a week, say. That way people will have a chance to learn from their mistakes. Just a thought.

Erik

I voted no…we are living in interesting times and it is very cool to discuss events with this crowd. I would miss the opinions & some of the best posts are by the mods.

Hope you reconsider.

Paul