wanting a personal protection dog...

Looking for a puppy to live with my lab and fiance. Rottie was grown and didn’t like my lab- she’s at grandpap’s now, and happy. I’d like a dobie, GSD, or malinois… something athletic, fast, and protective. I’m a long time owner of big dogs and handle them well. I’ve got a firm hand but am a loving owner. I feed them the best and exercise them well-being we have hundreds of acres. My fiance is also a long time large dog owner having experience with shepherds, rotties, and great danes. Seeing that we’re getting married this fall, money is tight. When I move in, she will be home more then me so loyalty is a must. Anyone here breed? I’ve got guns and some cash for trade. If not, anyone know any breeders who are reasonable?

Being a multi dobie owner/fan I’m free to answer ANY Dobie questions you may have
about the breed.
Like any breed every dog has their own “quirks” but over the years I’ve found some
things to hold true with the Doberman breed.

  1. They are a very sensitive breed. They NEED/demand alot of attention.
  2. they are NOT an “outside” breed. they have no undercoat so they are
    just as if not more sensitive to climate as you or I.

I can write more later when i have more time.

I am extremely partial to rhodesian ridgebacks. I grew up with several. I have one now. My mom has one. They are big, athletic, and still great around children. Mine is retarded, but he is the only one I have ever been unhappy with. They are protective, especially of the little ones, but only attack when necessary. One of my dogs saved my butt and my little brothers from 2 neighbors pitbulls when I was 6. The neighbor shot him over that.

These dogs were bred to hunt lions in africa. If I am not mistaken, they are the only dogs that can. If they get too excited when they are playing they will nip you in the butt as they race past you at 200 mph! they wont hurt you, they just want to tag you. its fun.

I train Giant Schnauzers (females work harder than males). Strong, smart and very loyal. Great for Schutzhund. Ever considered a RESCUE?

Not opposed to a rescue. However… when you bring an adult dog into a house with a lab and a cat, it might get ugly quick. That’s what happened with my Rottie. The lab and cat like every animal that crosses their paths… but an adult dog who is not familiar with them might not be so accepting.

I have been going to multiple dog parks with my Chesapeake Bay retrievers for about 12 years now. I’ve seen more dogs in that time than most people do in a life time. As a result, I am very opinionated when it comes to dog breeds.

However, I do admit that dogs that go to dog parks may not be typical of a particular breed because they have usually been well socialized. Also, dogs will act differently at a public place than they will at home. Many will be more protective at home than in a public place. This is usually a good thing because lawsuits happen.

My dogs are extremely well trained. I’ve taken a total of 9 different obedience classes with two different dogs. The instructor had the number two Schutzhund dog in the nation. Schutzhund was developed to test whether German Shepherd Dogs exhibit the traits necessary for police-type work, rather than simply evaluating a dog’s appearance. As a matter of fact, when I demo my dog, people can’t believe how well trained he is. Chessies are NOT like Labs or Goldens. They were bred to guard at night the boats and gear of the Chesapeake Bay market hunters. They are very suspicious of strangers and indifferent towards other dogs.

Rotties that I have seen have been very friendly to strangers and even lazy. Usually, their owners will admit how lazy their dogs are. Dobbies are typically not interested in strangers or other dogs and will stay close to their owners. Some seem to be be skittish and therefore you better watch them. Boxers are out of control, very high energy. German Shepard’s, have similar personalities to Chessie’s and can be whatever you want them to be. I could go on and on.

Be aware that the breeder can make a big difference. Some dogs are bred for show and some are bred for what they were originally developed for. German Sheppard’s that squat in the back are usually show dogs. Sheppard’s from Germany do not squat like American show dogs.

A neighbor has a Bullmastiff that is absolutely fearless and incredibly strong and powerful. The owners can’t control it. I am afraid of it!

FWIW, just some of my biased opinions on a few dog breeds. :wink:

MythBusters: Testing ways of getting past a vicious guard dog that wants to bite you! Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntY7vf5X87k

Top 20 Guard Dogs (read the comments too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxdmUhz_tP4&feature=related

I think we might need more info from you. Will the dog be outside alot? Winter? Do you want more than just a protection dog as some hunting breeds do double duty. Australian Blueheelers are huge dogs in small bodies VERY loyal and can go in or in back of truck anywhere and easily trained and controlled. Large Munsterlanders
http://www.lmcna.org/
http://web.mac.com/whitehawkvision/WHV/Welcome.html
and Chessies can hunt, handle cold, good indoors & out and be trained to bite some ass when need be. I love Large Munsterlanders as they are the most versatile hunting dog, handle cold very well and are gorgeous. If you write out what the perfect dog for “you” is then it will be easier to find the correct breed.

Living/sleeping indoors. Lots of outside time. No hunting, just companionship and protection. I am not opposed to a rescue, but if the dog does not get along with other animals, it’s a no-go. I rule the roost, my dogs know it. If a newbie comes in and thinks differently, they’ve got another thing commin’. Some adults were socialized well, but you can’t take a rescue’s word for it.

I think rescues are great for many people, but if you really need a protection dog get a pup and do it right. IMHO

At 2 years it will switch form pup to go getter. It will probably be worth it over the next 10 years for you.

Pomeranian!

No one in their right f@cking mind will want to live anywhere near you, be near you in public, and will cringe every time the damn dog opens it stupid little mouth. Plus the attacker will be more concerned about punting the damn thing off his shin, then he will you. Giving you plenty of time to hit said bad guy over the head, draw, or do what you will…

I want another Great Dane…

I have to admit I have a special hatred for Pomeranians myself.

College roommates girlfriend had one and it loved to jump into the toilet and frolic around in there then jump out and run around and roll on furniture, clothes, YOU while soaking wet from the toilet.

If you skin’m they make quite fashionable driver covers for your clubs:p

Best friend growing up had three in his house. One jumped up my leg after getting out of the hospital for tearing all the skin to the bone off my knee cap. From that day on (and even before it) I will always hate that breed with a passion. Like I said, if you sicked a Pom on me I would be so intent on kicking that thing five blocks that I wouldn’t notice you pulling out your CCW…:slight_smile:

au contraire! I have had three rescue dogs (two of them Rottweilers) and IMHO an older dog (3yrs.+) is far more traceable, has a developed character
and known habits. With a pup you never know what you get - and big dog puberty can be a 24/7 job… Some experiences close US friends have had
with breedes (who were supposedly “good” and “trusty”) remind me of used car dealers… Contrary to breeders, professional rescue organizations
don’t want to sell you a dog by all means and tell you the truth about potential problems. In the US “bad” dogs (= fu…ed up by inhumans) don’t make it
into new homes because they are put to sleep. Ask Pat Rogers, who is famous for adopting rescued Rottis. Guess whats good enough for Pat is
good enough for me. As long as shelters are full, I will get a rescue dog any day.

Btw, I think the term “protection dog” is faulty here. Most bigger dogs are a good deterrent and a great alarm but without specific, long time training hardly qualify
as dedicated “protection dogs”. However, my mum got to meet an exhibitionist in a park once- who wasn’t so happy to see my (not protection trained)
Akira (RIP) breaking through the bushes… :smiley:

my most recent rescue dog, Yoda: