"Everybody’s been too damn polite about this nonsense:
The “Occupy” movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. “Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America."
Another reason to like Frank Miller’s work. For those that don’t know he is the arthur of 300 the graphic novel that the film that was based on that was SO HUGE on gun forums (moral patches & tattoos).
Its not the dirty hippy commies I worry about. If they can’t even keep their own camps clean (several reports about illness and disease in these camps) then I doubt they would ever be able to do anything beyond vandalize the area around them.
The commies I worry about have money, wear suits, and are already in positions of power.
The problem is that the ones in suits and have money can use the hippies to their advantage to get popular backing for whatever mischief they are creating.
Yeah this OWS crowd/movement has its roots in communist and anarchist groups. They are primarily rabble and dirtbags with a few clueless college students who have no idea what this is really all about mixed in here and there.
Their only desire is MORE government handouts and a bigger welfare state. Believe me these morons want nothing to do with a truly free America and liberty. It’s the old communist class-warfare message.
I don’t think OWS has anything close to popular backing. Not with running around breaking other people’s shit along with the rapes and disease in their camps.
You’d be surprised. There are a lot of people who sympathize with what the MSM is reporting about these “Occupy” events. The rapes, disease, freeloading nature is not often reported. The idea of being screwed by Wall Street and that we need to do something about it however resonates with people.
I think there is a lot of discontent regardless of party towards WS and DC. With tax dollars we made sure the ‘cats’ were taken care of while many Americans are not doing so hot. I can understand that, and think its what most people are upset about.
I don’t think they identify with the OWS crew of communism and taking private land away from people.
I remember when ‘300’ came out people the Iranians went nuts b/c it was an anti-Persian movie and people wondered if it was a pro-bush/conservative movie because of its themes. I’d have to say that they were right.
If Frank really wants to make a difference, he shouldn’t be blogging about it, he should be making conservative themed graphic novels that get turned into movies for the mushy minded teenagers out there.
My wife hates it, but I let my 6 year old watch ‘300’ hoping that the hoplite theme would imprint on him.
Anyone see the new ‘300’ themed movie out yet; “Immortals”?
As we should all be concerned. It’s the old template, pressure from the top and bottom.
EDIT: Of course there are some truly daft useless idiots in there. What do you expect when you pay tens of thousands of dollars on a degree chaired by the likes of Ward Churchill? They should protest the guidance counselors that sold them a bill of goods regarding the income potential for their degree, if it even occurred to them to look at income potential before they selected their field of study.
Everybody’s been too damn polite about this nonsense:
“Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.
This is no popular uprising. This is garbage.
Maybe, between bouts of self-pity and all the other tasty tidbits of narcissism you’ve been served up in your sheltered, comfy little worlds, you’ve heard terms like al-Qaeda and Islamicism.
And this enemy of mine — not of yours, apparently - must be getting a dark chuckle, if not an outright horselaugh - out of your vain, childish, self-destructive spectacle.
In the name of decency, go home to your parents, you losers.
Bit long after the fact but I think this is a worthwhile counterpoint to Frank Miller. Not specifically about OWS (about which I still have conflicted feelings myself), but more about Miller’s slant on history. It’s been years since my college Greek history course, but what he says about Sparta, the Helots, and the Athenians is absolute dead-on: http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/11/14/david-brin-why-the-occupy-wall-street-kids-are-better-than-the-spartans/
Um, sorry but I can’t agree with the article you quoted (by David Brin):
“America’s right wing has gone insane, waging open Civil War against science, medicine, economics, journalism, education, skilled labor, civil servants, and every other practitioner of mental arts”
WTF? Brin is engaing in wild hyperbole there…though without a doubt, all the institutions he just accused the Right of waging war against are totally controlled by the Left.
And BTW, if Brin wants to cast rocks at the Spartans, then what about the Athenians? They were slave-owners too…
Side? Miller has one. I do not. While I openly state the obvious - that America’s right wing has gone insane, waging open Civil War against science, medicine, economics, journalism, education, skilled labor, civil servants, and every other practitioner of mental arts…
Ugh. Pretty hard to take a man seriously when he claims to not have a side while defending the OWS movement from blatantly factual accusations with this horseshit.
People are getting pretty worked up, which I can understand. Not my intention (though I should have realized it would do that), so my apologies. That’s why I try to stay away from political discussions in general
Personally, I can see valid points in both Brin’s and Miller’s posts. Again, I primarily found the article interesting as counterpoint (which is why I used that word quite intentionally in my post) and, more than anything, for the historical discussion–which was what I was referring to as ‘dead on’, not Brin’s political statements.
People have a tendency to value things that confirm their preconceptions and throw out those that are dissonant–to the degree that the behavior even has a name in congnitive science (confirmation bias). If you wish to dismiss it based on Brin’s obvious political leanings–because there’s certainly no denying them–that’s certainly your right. I think that people do themselves disservice by doing that which is why I try to always read stuff from both sides then make up my own mind, which I have not yet done for OWS and the issues which spawned it.
Disclosure: Though I think it’s immaterial, I can’t really classify myself as right or left. I have an equal number of opinions that fall on both sides. If anything, I’m probably closest to being a libertarian and tend to agree with the statements Ron Paul has made about OWS as much as anyone. And with that I’ve said all I have to on this subject.
