WA: State Law Makers Seek to Ban Sales of Semi Automatic Weapons

Given how liberal this Washington State is, something like this was bound to come up given recent events.

In response to recent shooting deaths, three state lawmakers say they want to ban the sale of military-style semi-automatic weapons in Washington.

The lawmakers intend to propose the ban in the state legislative session that begins next month.

The legislation, called the Aaron Sullivan Public Safety and Police Protection Bill, would prohibit the sale of such weapons to private citizens and require current owners to pass background checks.

It is named for Aaron Sullivan, 18, who was fatally shot last July in Seattle’s Leschi neighborhood, allegedly with an assault-style weapon.

Supporters say they also are motivated by the Oct. 31 slaying of Seattle Police Officer Timothy Brenton and the wounding of his partner. Police believe a .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle was used then.

The bill is backed by Seattle’s police department, spokeswoman Renee Witt said. Also pushing it is Washington Ceasefire, a nonprofit that seeks to reduce gun violence. The group plans a news conference today to announce the proposal.

The lawmakers who plan to sponsor the bill are Rep. Ross Hunter, D-Medina; Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle; and Sen. Jeanne Kohl-Welles, D-Seattle.

The ban would cover semiautomatics designed for military use that are capable of rapid-fire and can hold more than 10 rounds. Semiautomatics designed for sporting or hunting purposes wouldn’t be banned.

“If they’re used in the army, used in the war — that’s what this ban is about,” said Ralph Fascitelli, the board president of Washington Ceasefire.

Dave Workman, senior editor of Gun Week, a publication of the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue, said such a ban would punish law-abiding citizens who own such guns.

“I don’t care if my neighbor has a dozen of the things; … as long as he’s not hurting anyone or breaking any laws, leave him alone,” Workman said.

He also said he doesn’t consider the gun police say was used to kill Brenton an assault rifle.

Hunter knows getting the bill through the Legislature would be difficult, because of concerns about limits on gun ownership. However, he thinks the ban is necessary.

“We don’t allow people to own tanks or bazookas or machine guns, and very few people think that that’s an unreasonable restriction,” he said.

Kohl-Welles said the lawmakers are trying to be practical and aren’t suggesting guns be taken from current owners.

“What we’re trying to get at is there’s no place to have sales of military assault rifles or weapons in this state,” she said.

She also said she doesn’t believe such a ban would violate the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms.

“Did the framers of our Constitution ever envision something like a semi-automatic weapon?” she asked.

I’m not that well versed in the aspects of fighting something like this but I’d like to start. A) Can they even do this? B) How do the Washington gun owners (and there are a lot of us) on this board go about fighting it?

All banning this ‘style’ of weapon does is punish law abiding citizens…Does a felon care about the laws? No they dont…the people killing innocents and LEO’s will get a gun no matter what…

I mean you can by full auto damn near anything you want on alot of corners in the downtown area of a major city…

I just wish lawmakers would see that it isn’t the gun killing people, it’s people killing people…

I find it interesting that the rifle that Monfort used to kill Timothy Brenton was NOT a military style rifle, nor was it an assault rifle. IIRC it was a Kel Tec SU16CA, a california compliant sporting rifle that comes with 10 round magazines. So this bill would not have prevented the sale of the rifle used to kill officer Brenton.

EPIC INTELLECTUAL FAIL!

http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/su16ca.htm

A) Yes they can do it if they get the votes.
B) Write your state representatives and tell them that you don’t support this nor will you support anyone that does.

Typical knee-jerk reaction and they are using this tragedy to push their agenda.

Apparently Mr. Hunter needs to be reminded that you CAN IN FACT buy machine guns if they are pre-1986 and they are legal in almost every state out west except for Kalifornia and Washington. The ability to buy machine guns was taken away from Washington residents the last time they passed an “anti-crime” bill that was supposed to target criminals using “hi-powered” assault weapons.

I also know people that have historic military vehicles to include tanks.

Here is the link to this garbage. Truly vomit worthy.

see, gun owners like to ridicule california, and point fingers like haha your shit is fucked but not ours. Your state could be next…

You know it’s funny. I was just giving a friend of mine some crap about me being able to bring my non-California legal stuff to a Magpul Training in SoCal…Then this shit comes up. I’ve contemplated packing up and moving to Oregon before because that’s where my company HQ is but this might be the final push…

As to the Founding Fathers thinking that the citizens didn’t need military grade weaponry, I call BS… they had some of the state of the art weapons and weren’t afraid to use them. No way they would have said anything was ok except military grade weapons. We need to educate some people about what happened in the struggle to found this great nation…

Washington cripples the hell out of its cops via Article 1 section 7 of its constitution and its wacky interpertations by wacky judges. Now it wants to cripple its citizens as well.

Washington wants bad guys to impose their will without interference. Squeeze those cheecks fellas.

The whole point of the Second Amendment is that regular people are supposed to be able to own and carry, and in fact own and carry, militarily useful weapons. They could plausibly ban “sporting” guns but not military weapons.

They can ban these guns so long as that ban extends to the government as well.

I knew it wouldn’t be long before someone would propose doing this. They need to look at why said scumball was allowed out of prison in WA state after he showed repeatedly that he could not handle being a free man. All this will do is make it easier for the criminals to take over more of the state. If the people in Olympia want to do something about crime, how about locking up some criminals for a change and sending a strong message that way. You have to get caught 6 times stealing a car before WA law will give you some jail time, that sends the wrong message.

Bills like this have been proposed every year in Washington State for many, many years, and in most states in the union (including, I bet, Oregon) as well for years. I don’t know if this bill has any better chance this year (I am not in WA), but suggest you check with your local gun rights organization to see and help if necessary. Dave Workman, mentioned in the article, runs a good one.

Everyone knows the drill.

  1. Sporting rifles are OK? How many ARs are used a year in the shooting sports and how many are used in crime?
  2. The founder’s surely didn’t want these modern weapons in the hands of regular citizens. OK, if that’s how you want to read the 2A, how about we limit the 2A to street heralding and Guttenburg presses??

I expect this bill will never gain much support. They’ve tried stuff like this nearly every year I’ve lived in WA (10 years), and it has never gotten much traction. There are even a good number of Democrats in the WA state legislature that are pro 2A, and they know very well that their constituents own many of these weapons, and that it would create a huge uproar and reelection issue for them were they to try this.

Usually these things are just grandstanding, so that some ladder-climbing politician can pad their resume’ with an attempt to ban assault weapons.

Let them try. With the Heller ruling in place and Macdonald vs. Chicago coming down the pipe (very likely in favor of of Incorporation), this POS legislation has a snowball’s chance in hell of surviving. Hell, even in Kalifornia, Macdonald may be a good sign for our asinine “assault weapon” laws.

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Good thing I’m still technically an Idaho resident.

Koji
I would not get too bent out of shape about this. WA libs have been pulling this everytime any gun related anything happens. They will cry and whine to gain support, and hopefully fail.
The usual pro gun groups will do a good job of fighting this, and I’m sure most all gun shops and sportsmans clubs have already started spreading the word to combat this crap.
One more thing WA has going for it, is most the folks in the state outside of King, Pierce, Kitsap, and Snohomish counties are still mostly conservative folk who wont stand for this bill either.

Unfortunately with most the voters in Washington state being in those more liberal counties, it’s only a matter of time before they pass commie style gun legislation just like California has.

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