VZ-58 in Iraq

Just got back in from a mission in Karbala and I wanted to upload this photo of me with a Czechoslovakian VZ-58. It was issued to a specific Iraqi Army unit.

I told them that I thought it was probably the best AK variant made, but they actually preferred the regular ak. Their biggest complaint was that the hand guards got too hot too quickly. Some of them carried M16s and they all thought it was superior to the AK. They said it was easier to aim and shoot, especially on full auto.

Anyhow, here is proof that the VZ is issued to certain Iraqi army units…

Very cool pic, thanks!

The handguards do get very hot very quickly…old school bakelite with no heat shields.

I prefer the shootablity of my vz-58 to my AK’s.

Thanks for taking the pic, stay safe!

I have one back home, and agree with you. I changed out my hand guards to the plastic ones made in Israel and the heating issue went away.

What impresses me about the VZ is how small it is with a folding stock. Plus, the machined receiver is simply outstanding.

Being a lefty, the VZ is more ergonomic for me than the M4. With a micro aimpoint, it is a joy to shoot.

The Iraqi soldiers seem to be taking good care of their M16s too.

How are you mounting it?

I mounted it on the plastic rails of the hand guard without any additional mount.

the hand guards: http://www.zahal.org/FAB/sa58.html

Last leave I ran about 700 rounds thru my VZ with the micro aimpoint and had no problems with is holding a zero. I will probably upgrade the aimpoint mount to something a bit stronger.

Can you tell me about the belt/suspenders rig you are wearing in the picture? Thanks.

Crye Precision blast belt and suspenders. I don’t think you can buy them yet…

Emdom waist bag which I use to hold my medical supplies. I used to carry my med kit on my vest, but moved it to my waist so both my hands could reach it. This also allows me to carry more mags on my vest. You can barely see my Glock 17 tucked between the waist bag and the belt. It hides it quiet well, and allows me to walk around in a secure compound and still be armed. A lot of the Iraqi government buildings don’t want you walking around with full body armor and M4s.

The location was at an Iraqi Army gate inside an Iraqi government building in Karbala. Everyone else was playing soccer with the Americans, while I went off to chat up the guards. :slight_smile:

I-Ninja,

I have two of them in my armory with about a dozen mags. :smiley:

BigRed had one for awhile as well. We had a bunch in Afghan at the Embassy for a while as well, they had been Afghan Police guns I think.

I was told the Czechs sold/donated a number of them to offset some of their M4 purchases.

The ones I fired had an incredibly flat recoil - even on auto, with a really high cyclic rate

cool picture!Thank you and Be safe Bro.

It appears to be a very well made rifle and I look forward to doing some shooting with it soon. It also came with 3 mags which I thought was a bonus. Heres a pic


Cool deal, now you can bring it to the Vickers AK class in May!

Are they as good as I have read they are? The Vickers class sounds like a excellent idea. I need to spend some time with it and learn it first though.

I don’t want to derail Iraq Ninja’s thread any more, but czech these links out.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=9923&highlight=vz-58

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=15207&highlight=vickers

I started a new thread to avoid that. Can you post those there for me?

Got cyclic rate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8JRRxgtaQs

What’s up with the cheesy porn music in the background. lol :wink:

The VZ58 isn’t in the AK family at all. It shares nothing with the AK, except ammuntion, and it’s communist heritage.

Neat gun, none the less. I found one in N. Iraq and wrung it out some.

That looks awesome. Thanks for the link…
Thank you for your service and sacrifice.

Been seeing a lot more of these up north Kirkuk/Erbil/Dahuk areas here in the last month or so.
Need to buy one next im stateside.