Joe needs to shut up.
Ryan needs to hit harder when he isn’t interrupted by Joe.
Overall, the moderator is winning.
My take so far.
Ryan +1
Biden -1
Biden’s autokinematic smirk is a lying reflex he’s developed & it’s irritating.
Ryan could have been more assertive at times.
The moderator sucks.
Moderator sucked
Biden was an interrupting, arrogant, cranky old man.
Ryan was way too technical in his discussions.
Unlike the 1st presidential debate you’ll have to flip a coin. Not sure who won this one.
My guess is 90% of people tuned out at 10 minutes in to the show.
Boring.
bc
Apparently Biden was having a good time… couldn’t stop smiling and mocking. I was really annoyed by that childish behavior.
The Oreilly / Stewart debate was better
I am going to say Biden won, but by a slim margin by coming “clean” with Libya right there on the spot, and being an interrupting, disrespecting retard on the spot.
Ryan, and the Romney campaign needed to get more specific with their tax plan without really showing the cards. I know they want to work with others, but they are faulting with the same leaderless tactic that the Obama Administration is doing.
Foreign policy helped Biden in the aspect that he has hands on intel that they have no problem in releasing to the public though the file reads, “Top Secret.” Anyone catch the aiding and arming of the Syrian rebels?
I call it a draw,
Positive,
Biden showed experience and was more forceful on his responses.
Ryan put forth some fresh ideas which sounded better then the current status Quo. He also held his own on the back and forth and appeared to be a educated person.
Negative,
Biden looked like a ass with the faces and the constant lier, lier pants on fire crap.
Ryan was real thin on facts and needed to be more forceful with Biden when he cut in on his time.
Honestly i had a hard time following Biden at times, But- if-you-enounciate-every-word i guess it means you win?
And yes the moderator sucked!
Yep… what Phila PD said…
I do feel like Ryan was the most professional and Biden should know that it’s long past time to cut the bullshit out and get down to business.
I don’t think either “won” but I would still side with Ryan.
Ryan let Biden walk all over him. Given that all politicians are liars these debates are more about perception than what comes out of your mouth.
I agree, it will be interesting what happens at the next debate. I betting obama will come out swinging instead of being polite like the last one. Lets hope Mitt is ready for it.
Let me put it like this. If I had no knowledge of any issue, if I were brand new, tonight, to hearing any of this for the very first time, and I never saw nor heard Biden or Ryan before tonight…Id have to honestly say Biden won handily. Now, Ryan did ok on a couple of points, and Biden’s constant grinning and interupting was rude and annoying as hell, but overall, even if you disagree and knew he wasnt telling the truth, Biden won this one. I was surprised how well he did, and how poorly Ryan did.
Its ALL on Romney now.
Agreed. They need to provide at least 2-3 deductions that are on the chopping block to bring the rates down to 20%. It was clear that Ryan was instructed not to provide a specific deduction cut.
Well said man and unfortunately true.
The next debate will be in a town hall meeting style. As others have said, and I agree, the next Obama we see will not be like the one of the first 2012 debate. Judging by the numbers after the first debate swinging towards Romney if he can do a repeat performance next week it may nail the coffin shut on Obama.
-Jax
I watched the entire debate, had it even, both landed, however Biden fucked up hugely by tossing the intelligence community under the bus on Lybia, then turned right around and stated categorically that “we”(the administration)would know the instant that Iran was close enough to a nuke! This was a huge gaffe that will despite the efforts of the DNC media apparatus, reverberate over the coming days…
One other thing, Biden destroyed any likeability he may once have enjoyed, with all the snickering, sneering, and condescension, I’ve never seen anything like it before, he really just descended into the gutter, however, the mental defectives of the lefty base, likely had orgasms everytime he behaved so boorishly…
+1. I agree with this, and lets hope this is counted in the numbers.
Lets hope Mitt is ready for it.
Romney has a huge advantage over the commie, in fact several of them, he went through a gladiator school of debates in the primaries, twenty-one of them, and he held his own, and won his share of them against men such as Newt Gingrich, a man who could effortlessly have thrashed Obama in open debate, Obama hasn’t the IQ to prevail in such a forum, and hadn’t debated anyone since that idiot McCain in 08!
Further, Obama has a record of abject failure, if Romney brings his A-game, Obama is going to have a problem. One other thing, in the debate this evening, the moderator appeared to openly have aligned herself with Biden on a number of occasions, she constantly cut off Ryan, and interrupted Ryan in the middle of responses, Romney had best be prepared, these people are openly aligned against America, and the concept of America, he had best be prepared…