Anybody with hands on with Sig 1-10 ffp and Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8 ffp? Looking for 1 or 2x to 8 or 10x without a noisy reticle. Illum and vertical tics for comeup, moa, under a thousand bucks… I hear these have critical eyebox, but I kinda like that. Biggest Q is will they focus at highest mag at 100 so I can see 556 holes in paper? Love my Viper 1-6, but atmospherics must be right to read target. My PA 1-8 won’t focus for me past 6 1/2x til 200y…
Thanks for any input
I don’t know about SIG, but I do know you’ll be disappointed going from a Viper to a Strike Eagle. Glass quality is way more important than magnification.
I’ve looked through the Sig at the range and the glass was…almost yellow. I was a bit surprised.
Was hoping strike eagle glass would now be decent at the same price point as the viper. I could shoot outside nighttime ambient light at home if need be with the viper. Darn.
Have only looked through sfp 1-6 Sigs at the range. Seemed “ok” in the daylight, but the coyote brown did have wierdness at edges the black didn’t…
When the Tango 6T came out, I looked at a couple, at two stores. I don’t remember what was wrong with the first one, but it had some glaring defect. The second one had a frozen mag ring. I concluded that I should look at buying something else. The Romeo 4t I bought shit the bed on me twice. That accounts for all 3 Sig optics I have touched.
Vortexes tend to work fine, in my experience. Dunno if the model OP is looking at will do what he wants, though.
Like other stuff in the Sig catalog, I think it matters which production spec you get. The DOD 6Ts I’ve seen have been GTG and very usable.
I’ve heard that. I think maybe I just have terrible luck, or it was a bad omen. Either way, the trust isn’t there for me.
At the very least, Sig should be more transparent when they have different specs. They do this a lot, to varying degrees across several products. Makes them hard to trust.
I wonder if the funny sig view could be because of brown inside the brown ones? Or if y’all saw the color in black ones, too…
Reviews have stated tight eye box getting tighter with more magnification for both. Maybe focus also for one of em. I just don’t want a repeat of the PA scope fuzziness at high end.
Have a couple of Vortexes and like them. This strike eagle is a 6 or 700 dollar version as opposed to the old 350 dollar ones, but if it ain’t clear and focusey…
May just do another 1-6 Viper and deal with it
No time with the Sig LPVO’s but the lots with Vortex, if you’ve already got a Viper the Strike Eagle is going to be a step down for sure, I have a 1-10x Razor and that is awesome on an AR10, but I would go with a Viper 1-6x for an 5.56 AR in a heartbeat, the new PA PLX 1-8x if you can jump up to that $1500 price. And if that’s not enough magnification then the 2-10x Trijicon Credo would probably be my next choice.
I looked through some Sig LPVO at a LGS and the glass seemed ok and came with a decent mount and well under $1000. But by now those same optics could made on another planet by Alien Pygmies with recycled coke bottles. My rifle RDS from Sig have been ok, but my pistol RDS have sucked.
I would make sure I got my hands on any sub $1K optic before buying.
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Thoughts/experiences on VIPER® PST™ GEN II
2-10X32 FFP? Does it draw good light and is reticle stout enough to use low light without illumination? Like getting close to sundown under trees in the southeastern deer woods/dark background? Especially towards 2x?
The issue with the Vortex Viper 2-10x in my personal opinion is the non- locking turrets and the weight. I say this because I’ve hunted with a SWFA that had non-locking turrets and have had my turrets move on me when out in the woods, and when you dramatically shoot over a deer it can become infuriating. The weight of it seems to be more than other rivals, I think the PA 2.5-10x is the best budget option for the 2-10x range, but someone on here probably can give you other options
I run the Viper PST Gen II 2-10 on my 12" 6.5 Grendel coyote gun, and it’s a great scope. It has good glass with clear sight picture, good eye relief, and good clarity and resolution even in low light (but I’m hunting in Utah, so maybe not as dark as your southeastern deer woods). The turret clicks are fairly crisp (not Razor crisp though), and i like that it has an illuminated reticle. Mine has held up to a lot of abuse, and i was surprised how practical the 2-10 mag range is.
Ah, yes. Locking/non-locking turrets were of question, too… and I’m actually happiest 2x low end as opposed to 1x… Knobs pretty tight on my viper. Almost too tight. Sure wish I could actually hold that 2x10…
I’ve considered the Gen II Viper PST 2-10 several times but I get stuck when I consider that for 1.9 more ounces I can step up to the 3-15x44.
I’ve never taken Sig optics seriously and doubt I ever will. There are plenty of good other options. My PST 1-6s might be heavy and have reticles that don’t impress, but the glass is good and they work.
Have always joked that if my viper 1-6 rig was slung when I fell out of the boat, I would sink scope first to the bottom…
But I never realized the loss of field of view by going from 1x to 2x… Or is it fair to compare the 1-6 and 2-10 vipers due to construction differences?
Strike Eagle Field 1-8x24 ffp of View 113.6-14.1 ft/100 yds
Viper 1-6
Field of View 112.5-18.8 ft/100 yds
Viper 2-10 Field of View 58.3-11.7 ft/100 yds
Viper 3-15x44 ffp Field of View 41.2-8.6 ft/100 yds
Sig 1-10 fov at 100 120-12
If you’re looking for the perfect optic, it just doesn’t exist. I totally get it, I seem to own and run a variety on all my ARs, and the truth is that my favorite optic thus far is just a ACOG, mainly because it works, clear glass, and I haven’t broken it yet.
I hear you Hank6046! For this rifle, I was just hoping for 1 or 2 at low end, 8 or 10 at top end, stable focus throughout range, light gathering similar to my viper, a simple reticle like any mentioned so far, and locking or capped adjustment…
Looked through another brown Sig 1-6 sfp today at the range. Didn’t notice yellow color in lens, but the color I noticed around the edge was not in the image. It was reduced diameter of tube against which the lens is seated. Nothing a little black magic marker wouldn’t fix, but it lost some focus from 1 when moving to 6. Not acceptable (to me in a 1-6. 1-10, maybe), and I haven’t noticed this on my viper…
If I could only afford that Nx8 mentioned elsewhere…
Edit: In all fairness, maybe I shudda focused that Sig at 6x and turned it down to 1x to verify focus range…
I have a very good copy of the Vortex SE 1-8 FFP that is doing quite nicely for me. Many of my optics are used for a variety of weapons (different pics), but I locked down the Strike Eagle on my DD RIS 3 upper and plan on leaving it there. While I do prefer the Vortex Razor 1-6, it is obviously a much more expensive optic.
ETA a pic…
