
I was surprised to see this old piece in use with a local agency while we were at a shoot together. They are really making the most of what they have. Aparrently, the M16 and the Aimpoint with mount were freebies from the government.
I figured this was the appropriate forum for this, but if not feel free to move it and continue discussion.
My agency received 400 of these rifles. Many of them were rebuilt at an arsenal and are like new. Some of them I shot are quite accurate.
That rifle will do everything they need on that configuration.
Thousands of departments are deploying those old war horses all over the country. While to long for house clearing they are acceptable for perimeter containment and active shooter use. The ones I have shot and seen shot (Over 30 at a time) were accurate and the only malfunctions were magazine related.
We have them on the streets right now.
The armory refitted them without auto ability.
yup, the ones at this dep’t are all without auto. The one pictured shot great, and was plenty accurate. not bad for free!
So pretty
Ours were converted to shoot semi-automatic only as well. Given their use, I believe this was a wise move.
It’s good that these rifles were made available for use by LEO instead of being destroyed or sold to foreign entities.
Absolutely!
Our office has a few. Most have different uppers and m4 stocks put on by the users.
I had an M16A1 in basic training. It did everything I asked it to do. The only thing I would recommend is going back to an A1 buttstock.
How’s that 1:12 barrel with heavier weight bullets?
Accuracy tends to drop off when shooting anything heavier than a 62g bullet out of the rifles I have fired. The 62g accuracy is so-so, much like shooting 55g rounds out of a 1:7 twist barreled carbine we have in the armory.
M193 ball really shines with the M16A1 rifles we got from D.O.A. There are a lot of commercial 55g soft point loads on the market, which gives you options for defensive ammunition.
The D.O.A. M16A1 rifle program is a really sweet deal for a department on a tight budget.
My department has 3 M16s. Not A1s or A2s, original M16s with no forward assist or shell deflectors.
I see what you did there. Completely took up the old linoleum floor tile and laid some proper stone. Nice. ![]()
Am half-surprised that the upgrades were allowed to go quite that far on the rifle, notwithstanding the obvious logic of getting them done. Must be working for a fairly enlightened department/agency.
AC
Thanks Chuck,
The new floor is spectacular…![]()
Because we have to retain all of the parts from the original rifles, all we did was add collapsable stocks and used approved personal uppers. The can isn’t approved, it’s just on there for the pics. Duffy donated BAD A.S.S safeties so they match our existing semi auto rifles that are in our patrol vehicles. All rifles have ambi safeties.
I was always fascinated by what Dept’s have in their arms rooms. I wonder if their are any older weapons (Thompsons, M14’s, grease guns, etc.) still in use somewhere.
USAF procured rifles that were like the Army issued A1 but lacked the forward assist. They ordered everything without it. It was in the 60s significantly more expensive with the FA.
We had a few hundred Department of the Army M-14’s. The bean counters did not like the fact that .308 was more expensive than .223 ammunition, so they were put in mothballs.
Unfortunately, the rifles were transferred to another agency a few years ago.
Excellent build. I’m glad to see that your dept in the Great State of Pennsylvania allowed that customization.
as far as other old rifles, there is a local LEO agency here in Michigan that does infact have a Thompson M1. Idon’t think they carry it in a car anymore, but they do shoot it at the range for qualification and it is “on duty” at the barracks.

