Video of Militia Rounding Up 300 Illegals at Border

Actually, two videos on one link.

https://www.rt.com/usa/457051-militia-arrests-migrants-border-patrol/

I don’t care if this is legal, illegal, non-legal, criminal, or who doesn’t like it. All that matters is someone is taking action and there will be 300 less illegals for my children and grandchild to support for the rest of their lives.

but when do the crucifixions start?

You’re a day late…

All fun playing cops and illegals, until you run into a cartel group moving product, and you are way under-armed and in the middle of no where without air support…

The majority of which still come through the POEs unfortunately

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Uh, no, unfortunately once they are turned over to CBP they will be “processed” and released like the rest of the vermin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-arrests-alleged-member-of-armed-group-stopping-migrants-in-new-mexico/ar-BBW8xz1?ocid=spartanntp#page=2

I just read a bunch about the Ranch Rescue bunch getting sued. This stuff has to stop. Catch and release, catch and release.

We need to seal the border, I think the majority of folks pretty much agree with that thought.

If President Trump and the Dems would quit bickering, we could probably get some commonsense stuff done.

I found a pretty good story on the border wall from USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall/story/flight-over-entire-us-mexico-border-fence/605855001/

[i]After passage of the Secure Fence Act in 2006, Customs and Border Protection used eminent domain to seize (and pay for) hundreds of private parcels along the Rio Grande. The cost was enormous, the political backlash furious.

At the same time, the river’s bending hydrology created design nightmares. The border adheres to a pretzel-like channel. Fencing to match would have meant financial chaos and potential catastrophe. A barrier alongside any curving river acts as a dam at high water, backing up the flow and then collapsing into a massive flood.

Moreover, such construction likely would have violated a treaty with Mexico that is overseen by the International Boundary and Water Commission. (Officials from both sides of that binational agency declined repeated requests for comment on the proposed wall.)

As a result, Customs and Border Protection was forced to erect straight-line fences, often on levees far from the river, the border. Some sit more than a mile away, so removed we can’t even see them from our helicopter. These distances leave some Texans, and their land, in a nebulous zone between border and fence.

The actual border sits generally in the middle of the Rio Grande, so dry-land property begins dozens or hundreds of feet north or east of the line. A border wall would sit somewhere beyond that; it is impossible to know where without a final plan.

But to gauge the potential impact, the USA TODAY NETWORK obtained digital property maps from all 13 Texas counties with border frontage, and analyzed every parcel within 500 feet of that mid-river line.

If the wall and construction for it were to overlap that swath, it would require seizure of some portion of almost 5,000 chunks of land, nearly all of it privately owned.

Is such a seizure feasible? Consider the progress made after the Secure Fence Act, when U.S. officials filed more than 320 federal court actions to condemn private properties.

Some cases were settled for as little as $100 for an easement. Others resulted in federal payments as high as $5 million for 6 acres. But, nine years after the first cases were filed with a federal court in Brownsville, 85 remain in litigation.

Just 654 miles of border have security barriers, according to a February report to Congress by the Government Accountability Office. Of that total, 300 miles are designed to block only vehicles. That means of the nearly 2,000 border miles, just 354 have fencing to stop people.

Most of those barriers were built under the Secure Fence Act.

The GAO calculated in 2009 that the border’s existing pedestrian fence — those tall steel bollards we first saw 13 miles inland, and which we now haven’t seen for hundreds of miles — cost about $6.5 million per mile. The most expensive mile was $15.1 million; the cheapest was $400,000.

Texas’ border with Mexico runs for over 1,200 miles. Twelve hundred miles times $6.5 million equals $7.8 billion to wall off Texas.

But that figure, too, is bogus: We cannot extrapolate the price per mile for a wall based on what it cost to build fences. This is what we know:

  1. A wall almost certainly will be more expensive than a fence due to its height, volume and engineering.
  2. There are no details. While federal officials have selected some contractors to build prototypes, no actual designs had been released by the time of our journey. To date, the president has said his wall should be at least 40 feet, or at least 30 feet, or no less than 20 feet.
  3. GAO fence calculations did not include land acquisition, litigation, and utility relocation costs. Those expenses figure to be huge, especially in Texas.
  4. The existing fencing was built in relatively easy and inexpensive locations (less eminent domain and easier access, topography, etc.) If those barriers are ripped out for replacement by a wall, it will add cost. As more difficult locations are chosen, costs will escalate.

Still, for the sake of discussion, $10 million per mile might be a ballpark estimate in difficult terrain.

The area in question is part of the Border Patrol’s Big Bend Sector, formerly known as the Marfa Sector, with 510 miles of border.

The Big Bend Sector had just 6,366 apprehensions last year — less than 2 percent of the total. That’s about 12 migrants per mile of border.

The problem is so marginal that National Park rangers, rather than Border Patrol agents, handle most enforcement efforts.

If a $10 million-mile of wall could reduce the number of illegal entries by half — from 12 to six — that would be nearly $1.7 million per migrant turned away.

Ask the White House or Department of Homeland Security for the mile-by-mile analyses. There are none. In fact, a Government Accountability Office report found that Customs and Border Protection never even calculated the effectiveness of existing fences.[/i]

There has to be a great deal of corruption and trafficking at POE or the quantity that is being reported as entering the country is wrong. How could your average 5’ Central American carry several kilos of product and make it through that arid territory?

If he is indeed a convicted felon then he pays the piper I guess. Of course if he was in Virginia he would be allowed to vote again!

I have wondered if the Federal Corrections officers at the super-max where El Chapo is held have their bank accounts and spending (like credit cards) monitored by the feds while they are assigned to guarding ol’ Guzman.

If anything the quantity is probably being underreported.

There’s corruption sure but I think it’s minuscule. It’s really just the volume of narcotics coming through. If smuggling through POEs was bad for business the cartels wouldn’t do it. So as much product is being seized it’s still within acceptable loss limits.

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Bingo

That’s not actually how it works. Inmates/correction officers in admin jobs always scout to see who they can make a client. When they are approached by CO’s and a deal made, someone on the outside sends a money order etc to a PO box. Then the CO’s etc will bring in the gifts etc.

Its an atrocious problem with no easy answer and it sux.

PB

Lot’s of green-ey and enviro laws have ‘bounty’ actions in them. A company that isn’t in compliance can be sued in civil court by a ‘bounty hunter’ that finds that their labelling isn’t to spec, the hand rail in the bathroom is an inch off. They then get the company to pay to go away or take them to court and collect. I’d love to see something like that written into the immigration laws. Better yet, make the bounties come out of the budget that the lefties care about so that they’ll actually have an incentive for bounty hunters not to be able to find illegals.

The FBI on Saturday arrested a man described as a commander of an armed group that has been detaining migrants in New Mexico, the state attorney general’s office said.

Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, of Flora Vista, New Mexico, was arrested for allegedly being a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition, New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas and the FBI said.

The arrest comes after New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, a Democrat, demanded that members of a militia group, some of whom are armed, stop detaining migrants at the New Mexico-Mexico border.

Balderas said in a statement that Hopkins is “a member of the armed group of individuals reportedly detaining migrants near Sunland Park, New Mexico.”

Ask yourself: How did the FBI know to go and arrest this guy so quickly? Answer: They have been watching this group for a long time. That’s a cautionary tale for anyone thinking of doing something similar.

On top of that, Flora Vista is a long way from Sunland Park, at least a day’s drive. So this guy was way away from home. He must have been followed. The FBI probably has these people under 24-hour surveillance.

I’ve been on the New Mexico and Arizona border with Mexico numerous times. Other than a government easement of like 20 feet, private property extends to the border in many locations. No one is going to be telling private land owners they can’t stop hordes of trespassers from crossing their land. I’d do the same thing if I was down there - round 'em up, hold them at gunpoint until the Feds or local LE show up. If it’s my place, I can call in Ranch Rescue or armed Girl Scouts and that’s my business.

Racist.

:rolleyes:

I’m a bit tired of the whole drama.
If you’re not going to turn back an unarmed invasion with force and you are willing to turn your back on it as it occurs, why not just turn your back and let the people who live down there handle it?
The very same people arresting this bunch of US Citizens could be working to round up the people coming across illegally, but that’s not going to happen. Now ask yourself why?
I’m a bit sick of the FBI picking sides and leaning toward the socialist progressive agenda and Democratic Party agenda.

Honestly a backhoe could fix all of this.

Militia ordered to leave its encompment:

https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/local/2019/04/22/united-constitutional-patriots-new-mexico-militia-leave-sunland-park/3545036002/

Members of the United Constitutional Patriots, who set up a border camp to monitor immigrants in Sunland Park, New Mexico, were told to move their campsite by Friday.

The Sunland Park Police Department and representatives of the railroad that owns the land told the militia members on Monday that they would have to move.

‘No trespassing’ signs posted
The city of Sunland Park on Monday also set up “No Trespassing” signs in the area. The land is owned by Union Pacific.

“Members of the United Constitutional Patriots were not given permission to camp on or access Union Pacific property,” Union Pacific said in a statement.

Union Pacific stated that the group set up a camp adjacent to Union Pacific property and trespassed on railroad property to access this camp.

Union Pacific has its own police force that enforces trespassing laws.