As a disabled veteran of the United States Navy I find this very disheartening. Article here.
“Corrigan telephoned what he believed to be the ‘Military’s Emotional Support Hotline’ because he was depressed and had not slept for several days,” the complaint states.
"The number Corrigan called was in fact the National Suicide Hotline. When he stated that he was a veteran, he was asked if he had firearms, to which he said yes. He said nothing about being suicidal or using a firearm or threatening anyone. After a short conversation, Corrigan hung up, turned off the phone, took prescribed sleeping medication, and went to bed.
"At approximately 4 a.m. in the morning of Feb. 3, 2010, Corrigan awoke because he heard his name being called over a bullhorn. There were floodlights outside his front and back doors and an estimated 8 police officers in the back yard and 20 in the front yard.
"Corrigan turned on his phone and found that Officer Fischer of the 5th District was calling him, asking him to come out, which he did at about 4:50 a.m., locking the door behind him. He was handcuffed and put in the back of a SWAT truck.
“When Officer John Doe I (upon information and belief, Officer John Doe I is Lieutenant Robert Glover) asked Corrigan for the key to his apartment, he informed the officer: ‘There is no way I am giving you consent to enter my place.’ Officer John Doe I stated: ‘I don’t have time to play this constitutional bullshit!’ and ordered that Officers John Does II-V, members of the Emergency Response Team (ERT), enter the apartment.”
The VA is voluntarily giving up medical records to the ATF who is placing them on NICS checks no-goes. I know a friend who just got his notice from the VA and they are sending someone to his house because he has been diagnosed with PTSD and informing him of the Brady Act of 2008 and that he is not to have any firearms in the house as it will result in a Felony.
Here is the link to the Veteran’s Disarmament Act signed in 2008.
And apparently the VA & ATF have removed approximately 150,000 veterans from NICS eligibility many without even the veterans knowing.
Denny Rehberg of Montana has cosponsored a bill that passed Congress last year (2011) to repeal the Veteran’s Disarmament signed in 2008 because it is unconstitutional to lose your Second Amendment rights without so much as a trial or even being accused of any crimes. Sad.
Didnt local authorities state that it was difficult for them to attach a psychological report to Jared Lauchner? Its really sad to read that about a veteran and to see how easily they can be blacklisted. One could only hope that the officer who didn’t have time for the Constitution has to explain it on the stand.
AG Holder wants terrorist watch list, which requires ZERO oversight or due process, be applied to NICS…
The DOJ working group concluded that the best course of action to address concerns about the ability of terrorists to obtain a firearm or a firearm or explosives license or permit would be to introduce legislation that would allow the Attorney General discretion to deny such transactions, if necessary.
My guess, is if you are AD mil, is to tell your current COC or medical support staff you want to seek an off site provider (if you are having a pyschiatric issue) and go from there. Under TRICARE you are allowed to seek off post care if you make it known you do not believe on post care if adequate. Don’t be afraid to push buttons if you want to retain your rights. Unless you are really bat shit nuts an off post provider is not going to ‘turn you in’. Never mention firearms to anyone unless you are seriously considering suicide and then in that case you do need to be helped. My grandpa shot himself in the head and I don’t want to see any family go through that so get help if you need it at all costs. If you just need to talk with someone and its not to that point use your resources and NEVER mention firearms to anyone on post. The mil is extremely anti personally owned firearms, and its just someone you don’t have to mention to anyone as long as you are living off post.
“In 2009, DHS came under fire for a 10-page report, “Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment,” which classified returning war veterans as potential threats. When government watchdogs submitted FOIAs for the sources used in preparing the report, they found that conspiracy websites and far-left outfits had been used, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, which branded the American Legion veterans organization as a “hate group.” Information also surfaced that the report had been rushed out over the objections of civil liberties officials. DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano was forced to apologize to veterans groups and withdraw the report.”
My best friend works there, its in Canaduage NY almost 90% of the councelers on the phones are vets. I’m going to forward this to him. I will say this he has told every one of the guys he knows if you ever call dont tell them you own guns.
Maybe I can get him to shed some more light on it, but I dought it. Im thinking the guy said more than what the news story said.
Civil lawsuit. We had a big newsletter thing go around the precinct about civil rights and even had some breifings about it because some jackass at work got sued. Most officers I work with are very pro civil rights but you get those select few…
The whole thing was that a citizen has the right to sue a LEO for a violation of civil rights.
Absolutely. I don’t give a shit if people think it’s “tinfoil hat” or not but the fact of the matter is the .Gov would love to disarm a bunch of combat veterans who are coming back home from overseas.
The VA is required to quarterly report a list of anyone diagnosed with any mental condition that may disqualify them for firearm ownership… Even if they already own them prior to the diagnosis/counseling.
It appears that merely seeking help gets you hemmed up.
It is a product of H.R. 2640 passed in late Dec 2007 and signed by GWB.
bill Overview
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Text:
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Status:
Occurred: Introduced Jun 11, 2007
Occurred: Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Occurred: Amendments (1 proposed) View Amendments
Occurred: Passed House Jun 13, 2007
Occurred: Passed Senate Dec 19, 2007
Occurred: Signed by President Jan 8, 2008
Last Action:
Jan 8, 2008: Became Public Law No: 110-180.
Related:
See the Related Legislation page for other bills related to this one and a list of subject terms that have been applied to this bill. Sometimes the text of one bill or resolution is incorporated into another, and in those cases the original bill or resolution, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned.
Votes:
Jun 13, 2007: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representative’s position was not kept.
Dec 19, 2007: This bill passed in the Senate with changes by Unanimous Consent. A record of each senator’s position was not kept.
Dec 19, 2007: A vote in the House of Representatives to agree with the other chamber’s changes passed without objection. A record of each representative’s position was not kept.
Title I - Transmittal of Records
Section 101 -
Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to: (1) authorize the Attorney General to obtain electronic versions of information from federal agencies on persons disqualified from receiving firearms; (2) require federal agencies to provide such information to the Attorney General, not less frequently than quarterly; and (3) require federal agencies to update, correct, modify, or remove obsolete records and notify the Attorney General of such actions to keep the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) up to date. Requires the Attorney General to submit annual reports to Congress on the compliance of federal agencies with such reporting requirements.
Requires the Secretary of Homeland Security to provide the Attorney General, not less than quarterly, information for determining whether a person is disqualified under the federal criminal code from possessing or receiving a firearm for use in NICS background checks.
Requires the Attorney General to: (1) ensure that all NICS information received from federal agencies is kept accurate and confidential; (2) provide for the removal and destruction of obsolete and erroneous names and information from the NICS; and (3) work with states to encourage the development of computer systems for notifying the Attorney General when a court order has been issued or removed or a person has been adjudicated as mentally defective or committed to a mental institution. Prohibits federal agencies from providing a person’s mental health or commitment information to the Attorney General if: (1) such information has been set aside or expunged or the person involved has been fully released or discharged from all mandatory treatment, supervision, or monitoring; (2) the person has been found to no longer suffer from a mental health condition or has been found to be rehabilitated; or (3) the adjudication or commitment is based solely on a medical finding of disability without a hearing and there has been no adjudication under the federal criminal code of mental defectiveness.
Requires all federal agencies that adjudicate the mental health of individuals or commit such individuals to a mental institution to: (1) establish a program to allow such individuals to apply for relief from the disabilities to firearms ownership resulting from such adjudications or commitments; and (2) provide oral and written notice to any such individuals of the effect of a mental health adjudication or commitment on their ability to purchase or transport a firearm and their right to apply for relief from disabilities.
Man o’ man am I glad I didn’t seek continuing care from the VA after I left the Navy. If I ever do have a problem, I’m definitely NOT seeking treatment from the VA in the future.
ETA: Now that they’re doing this, how long do you think it’ll be before they start using insurance company and pharmacy records to NICS-block people? Depressed? Fuck you, you’re now a 2nd class citizen. Insomniac? Same thing. Epileptic? Can’t drive a car, you surely can’t be trusted to own a gun.
I agree. But i’m also kinda confused. Im trying to figure out why they target vets like the above incident, and also sign a bill handing out govt. subsidies to police depts to hire vets…seems to contradict each other.