VERY interesting J-frame development. Lasermax integral flashlight.

I ordered this little baby last week. I plan on shooting it tomorrow to see if everything works out. It was easy to install (although the screw heads are a bit soft). I attached it to my “walking gun” which it the gun I carry when I am getting my nightly walk in (I am old). I have long been a big fan of laser grips (yeah, try shooting with your glasses off or trying to see a tritium sight after the first shot from a snubby folks who don’t see a need). But I have, up to now, had to carry a separate light. Usually, this is fine, but I have had several instances where I have had to draw my weapon at night without having properly identified what was coming at me (dog, raccoon, etc (there have been a lot). The laser is fantastic, but I needed a light that was rapidly available. This looks to be the answer. It fits in its own supplied pocket holster or you can just get an uncle mikes’s holster, which fits it fine. It weighs 1 oz.

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Interested to see how extended carry goes. Neat idea.

I hope Lasermax makes a Ruger LCR-compatible version sometime in the future.

About time! I’ll hold off until I see enough positive reviews and experiences. But once vetted that seems like a must have.

Please let us know how it works with the CT grips. I have debated something like that for my 642 BUG for some time.

Now that I look at it a bit more, how do you operate the ejector rod? The light seems to cover it up.

50 rounds down the pipe today. Worked perfectly, no loosening, the light is still running. It didn’t come on or off when shooting. I will run it again next weekend but it is looking good so far.

Serious,
It doesn’t interfere with the grips. There is a little reflection along the side of the light (similar to the reflection at the back of the cylinder) but there is zero interference with the beam.

Clever,
It doesn’t interfere with the ejector rod. There is a cutout.

Thanks, I think I’ll buy one.

Greg:

Maybe you can try out this light combo at the 2016 Hackathorn snubby class. I think I’ll stick with a separate handheld light. Trying to keep the J as streamlined and lightweight as possible.

Awesome.

What did it cost you?

Have you compared your setup to a S&W BG38? How do the laser sights compare?

Sam,

I will bring it. I have two J’s right now, both with lasers and only the one with the light. For now I am going to use this one as my night gun and my other one for my day gun. I may put a light on the second one depending on how this works out. It doesn’t add any perceptible weight, but it is a hair bulkier (alhough it fits in Sp101 sized pocket holsters.

T2c,

I have not had a chance to check out the BG38. I never saw them until I got into Js so I haven’t really spent the time to learn about them.

150 rounds. Hardly a torture test but I am calling this a border-line no brainer for night pocket carry. The unit adds no perceptible bulk in the pocket, and 1 oz of weight. Again, this unit weights 18 oz loaded with laser and flashlight.

The placement of the switches on the unit is excellent. They allow for support or strong hand switch activation. The light is quite bright. I have already used while walking at night. I heard something scurrying towards me on the road, having encountered the neighbors free-roaming pit before, I was pretty confident of what it was so I was able to flash it and scare it off quickly. If it had been a possum or raccoon (or whatever) dead set on giving me rabies I would have been instantly ready to send it to the happy hunting grounds. Using separate lights are great, and have many advantages but are slow.

I took it apart to make sure there wasn’t any cleaning gunk or whatever in the unit…

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Some comparison shots with America’s standard CCW handgun.

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Most excellent. Sadly it is not available for my 340M&P but I do have a 438 that it will fit.

ETA: Nevermind about weighing it, I saw in post #13 you said it was 18oz loaded, thanks.

I see that you are the moderator in this section of the board, but I still have to ask you about the highlighted part of your original statement. I’m not trying to be smart here, I really want to learn something. In my state, Wis, if I draw my gun and turn around at a noise and it’s a little girl walking with her father that startled me, I will probably be talking to the cops about why I drew my handgun on a non lethal threat.

Clearing the cover garment and putting my hand on my firearm as part of a startle response - maybe, but actually drawing the gun without IDing the threat? Do you think that opens you up to some kind of negative legal action?

On the laser itself, I love the two Crimson trace units that I have on my carry guns. I use the CT lasergrip which goes where your light is mounted and I carry a hand held light so I don’t have to point my gun at something that I am trying to ID.

Again, not trying to rub you the wrong way, just curious about your thought pattern on this one.

I am a proponent of J Frames and have been following Mr. Bell’s threads. I like the switch location on his setup. The BG38 switch is located on the top right rear of the revolver. Using the support thumb to activate the switch has worked best for me and a few other people in my area, but it is not as quick as I would like. I believe Mr. Bell’s setup is better than the BG38 in this regard.

I see that you are the moderator in this section of the board, but I still have to ask you about the highlighted part of your original statement. I’m not trying to be smart here, I really want to learn something. In my state, Wis, if I draw my gun and turn around at a noise and it’s a little girl walking with her father that startled me, I will probably be talking to the cops about why I drew my handgun on a non lethal threat.

Clearing the cover garment and putting my hand on my firearm as part of a startle response - maybe, but actually drawing the gun without IDing the threat? Do you think that opens you up to some kind of negative legal action?

Absolutely. You always have to weigh your legal responsibilities vs your responsibility to return home to your family and/or not be injured. But in these specific instances, I could tell from the sound that it was an animal approaching me at speed (or the little girl from the Exorcist spider walking). Either way I was comfortable with my decision.

And don’t worry about me being a moderator. Your question is perfectly sensible.

Thanks for your response. I understand that action beats reaction and it’s best to be in a favorable position if your life depends on it.

Again, I’m very pleased with my CT Lasergrips. Much prefer the passive on feature and not having to try and manipulate a button under stress. I’m shooting with a friend who just installed a CT green laser and am considering updating my own lasers to green. I get a chance to shoot with him within the next week and will make my decision then on the upgrades.

I am extremely interested.