How could I have not noticed any increased police activity, or received a ticket from this sting?
Oh, thats right, I obey the traffic laws 
It’s really not that hard. That and I drive a slow 4x4 Chevy truck.
I am 100% for shutting down LE agencies for a weekend or 2. I’d LOVE to see the result.
And, why not charge to overly obese and/or smokers for their greater than average drain on our resources that result from their bad habits? I don’t have a problem with that.
Its not anti-police, its an anit-bullshit policits thread. 
I got pulled over on the Autobahn in Germany. I had two other Americans in the car with me (none of us was there with the Army or US gov) and I was just explaining to them how the police pull people over on the Autobahn in Germany when this police car pulled in front of me, lit up his “Bitte Folgen” sign, and led me to a rest area. I could not have planned it better.
I only got a warning. For having a dirty license plate (road grime had built up on it).
It was a 10 year old Mazda GLX and was not going fast or driving to endanger. Whole thing was kind of funny.
The problem with this thing in VA is that the purpose was not to make things safer but to raise revenue. The punishment is not in proportion to the “crime.” The laws are written to raise revenue. It makes the state a predator and the populace the prey. Hardly what the function of government is supposed to be.
Digression:
Driving in Germany on the Autobahn was a dream. I rarely drove fast due to the price of gas (buying it on the economy at the time at around $6 gallon – this was 91-93) but I never had to worry about looking for the cop hiding out trying to get me. If I needed to go faster, I could go faster. No stress. No heart problems. No worries about stupid things. You could concentrate on your driving. I normally drove around 60-65 but if I was late could go a bit faster.
My Golf at the time would do 105mph and I did it a few times when needed. After the 65 car pileup on the Autobahn that I was in the middle of and my Golf had enough body panel damage to be totaled I ended up with an old Mazda GLX and could not go that fast anymore (no, I was not speeding, I had just gotten on the Autobahn on the previous onramp – someone rammed a truck in the fog and caused a pile up and idiot businessmen speeding through the fog in their big mercedes and BWMs kept piling into the stopped traffic). A friend who was a body man with his own shop loaned me his 4 banger Mercedes which I did get to about 140mph but since it was not mine I only tried it once. Had a 4 banger rental mercedes in 2000 that I cruised at 135mph for a good length of time trying to get to Stuttgart on time for a YES concert… I know these speeds are not particularly fast but I never had access to anything that would do more than 120mph than a 4 cylinder Mercedes that would top out at around 140mph… Of course in the Mercedes at 135mph it felt like any other car at 75mph
Our departments would have more money for better equipment. Sounds like a good idea. I could use some new toys…
I agree with you; I’ve learned not to speed after 2 speeding tickets.
However, when those same cops writing tickets for doing 42 in a 35 are speeding all the time, it tends to foster an “us versus them” mentality.
Jay
Virginia is for speeders…
I just wish they’d enforce the left lane for passing and speed minimums too…
I think the larger issue is that revenue generation and the depth of the net cast. I think all these laws were written to keep things running smoothly and safely, not that every single infraction would be cited. As we get more and more unmanned electronic ability to spot infractions and the local govt desire to raise cash could meet up and every infraction over a few mph, every stop line breached by 6 inches and every stop sign not at a full stop will lead to $50 here and there.
So illegals with out licenses don’t have to pay the higher fees but still get in-state college tuition?
Just wait till interstate speeds go to 55mph to help fight global warming.
are you talking about the cops? I thought the cop/donut jokes were off limits anymore…
Hit a nerve, tubby? 
The war on traffic is going about as well as the war on drugs.
Call me old fashioned, but I want the police to find the real bad guys and kill them. Or at least beat the living crap out of them. I have been pulled over a couple times in my driving career, never given a ticket for speeding, most of the officers were courteous and professional, as was I. Other than preventing me from getting to various destinations at any reasonable speed, I don’t have too much of a beef with traffic cops. Most of the area I travel in is very rural, so speed limits become bizarrely insulting when you have an hours drive with next to nobody on the road, and no structures anywhere either.
Generally the only two ways you’ll ever see much law enforcement are if you speed, are some kind of drunken degenerate, or work as a law enforcement officer. Because many regular Americans hate the constitution and curse their ancestors, I have to assume much of the negativity and disrespect normal people have for cops comes from traffic enforcement.
What would be good? “As conditions permit” on highways, with speed limits in cities and towns. You’d get way more revenue because commerce would move quicker. When California went to 55 for trucks, it cost them an unbelievable amount of revenue, simply because less stuff got into and out of the state.
ZDL, the problem with health care is health insurance being a discount card vs actual insurance like what auto insurance provides (assuming you aren’t one of the 25-50% of people dodging that). Poor people get something of a free ride, but big corporations, unions and the government get an equally free ride (though this will change over time). Hospitals bankrupt ordinary people to get back in the black.
In fact the reason why you’re seeing huge premium increases is so many people are milking the system that hospitals are unable to recover enough money by bankrupting regular joes. Hospitals can’t charge medicare/medicade/state programs more money, so they started squeezing insurers, who in turn squeeze corporations large and small. The little guys are all but out of the game right now, when big corporations finally get hit big time, they’ll either hire doctors and do things in house, or slash benefits to nothing. The feds will have to ration at that point (your care rationed, not theirs).
If you’ve had really good insurance and looked at your bill, it reads something like this.
Procedure cost - $10,000
Insurer allowed us to bill - $1,750
Insurer paid - $1,650
You pay - $100
The problem is people aren’t billed equally for the same procedure at the same hospital. This means good living is never rewarded and bad living is never punished, especially if you have an accident and are hospitalized with no insurance or bad insurance. Going to single payer would only make the situation worse. You’ll end up with a bunch of big fat tards draining the system, sort of like it is now, but way worse. In case you haven’t noticed, you see a lot of jabba-the-hut, cubicle-sized creatures lurking the hallowed halls of government offices. If you told them or welfare recipients they had to stay within a certain BMI to get state healthcare they’d scream like a stuck pig. Yeah, I know it’s not your fault your jaw isn’t wired shut, but give the rest of us a break.
Well, back in the 70s when the police went on strike in NM the crime rate fell… Something about citizens having different rules of engagement…
You can Google it but it is mentioned here:
Like I said, I’d LOVE to see what happens. I’m a citizen of my community just like anyone else even if people believe law enforcement otherwise. I’d LOVE to see it. Truthfully.
I’ll say the obvious, it aint the 70s anymore.
1975 Albuquerque police strike. How about that, the death penalty is indeed an effective deterrent.
I guess the criminals figured out pretty quick that the police were the only ones standing between them and the citizens wanting payback. When you make your living being a criminal, dying isn’t much of a living.
My only real issue with this is the grotesquely high fines on some of these violations… Like $2500 for a speeding ticket? Did I read that right??? Are you kidding? At what point do we stop and call this excessive and all out of line with reasonable in relation to the violation? How about $10,000 or $20,000… or hey about about $100,000? Or how about we pull him out of the car and just execute him for speeding? Where does it stop? See what i mean?
This is a speeding ticket folks. A couple hundred dollars is fine, but when fines become financially ruinous and draconian then I say BS.
You must have a short memory…
That shit got tried in the 70s and was a total and complete failure. I didn’t obey a ridiculous speed limit like that then, don’t do it now, nor will I do it in the future.
You’re right. Armed self defense has become quite a bit more popular and accepted. Not to mention that there are many more citizens going about their daily lives while armed now vs then.
The only reason police are needed is because we are statutorily prohibited from dispensing justice. The only reason thugs can intimidate us is because they are mostly not afraid of prosecution and for the most part we (the law abiding, productive members of society) are. Take that fear of prosecution away and watch how the tables turn.
Think about that.
I got my first one in my Z last year. I was heading into a known speed trap town, but was distracted by a water blister on my eye. That was my third year of having owned my Z.
I had an allergic reaction to something in the air while at a handgun class and developed a water blister on my eye. My eye doctor was two hours away. So, I’m driving back while keeping an eye on my eye via the rear view mirror. Subsequently, I missed the speed limit change from 55 to 45.
I hated missing the last half of the last day of the Awerbuck class though. That’s when the previous two days of training were going to come together.
And then people who drink soda, and then people who eat eggs because we think those are bad for you off and on. Then maybe we don’t treat people who had accidents doing things deemed “inherently dangerous” because they should have known the risks. And then maybe someone deems something you are doing worthy of another tax or denial of service and so on. Careful with what you are suggesting and the slippery slope.
As for the thread topic. I agree, don’t break the law and you won’t have a problem. That being said; in our current society where personal responsibility and intelligence is at an all time low; law enforcement for the purpose of protection, safety, etc is a wonderful thing that we often take for granted or get angry about; especially when we find ourselves on the wrong side of it. Law enforcement as another form of taxation and revenue collection is complete and utter bullshit.
Well said
Hey IrishLuck73- as much as I like a well-developed female ass, can we stick with SFW avatars?
I think the larger issue is that revenue generation and the depth of the net cast. I think all these laws were written to keep things running smoothly and safely, not that every single infraction would be cited.
Originally, they were indeed well intended. But then state and local governments found that by purposely setting speed limits too low, they could create a revenue stream. The insurance companies love it for the same reason. You see the same thing with cities shortening yellow lights where red-light cameras are installed. And I have to add, it’s not the trooper’s fault when the speed limit is set stupidly low, it’s squarely the fault of greedy legislators and regulatory bodies.
I wish the laws against left-lane obstruction, failing to signal, and misaimed/overbright headlights were enforced with the same institutional zeal, but alas, there’s too little money in that for the bureaucrats to care.