It is cheeper than a Noveske recon and nearly identically from what it seems. It also has a pinned gas block.
Doesn’t Stag offer the same warranty? It’s a gamble that the warranty will sell more barrels than there will be buyers who legitimately shoot them out and take advantage of it, not a measure of the actual durability of the item. Jeep actually offered an unlimited mileage and unlimited time powertrain warranty as standard on the 2010 V8 Grand Jeep Cherokee to the original owner (I know because I’m looking at that year GJC as a replacement vehicle for when I move, I’m not that much of a nerd to randomly know this!).
Or you could just buy a Colt gas tube, but that’s not as fun…
Of course it is primarily a sales gimmick but it is nice to know they’re wanting to stand behind products even in the long term.
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No problem there, just saying that the barrel is not Stellite lined and somehow impervious to wear, as some people might try to infer. As to the gas-tube, it’s awkward to video the destruction of another product, and sell your product in the same video clip, without ever showing it subjected to use/abuse.
This isn’t an attack on you at all, I just happened to catch your post.
What is expensive/cost prohibitive to one person might be nothing to someone else. In another thread in the pistol forum you would think you could buy a home in Florida and retire on what it cost for a Vickers slide/mag release.
Awkward, and maybe a little bit shady.
Given who is involved I don’t think we need to make the assumption that anything is shady.
I don’t know the parties involved, so I apologize if they’re known and respected. But that video left me scratching my head. Not very well done and the kind of thing you’d expect to see from someone trying to mislead and deceive.
It is made of iconel, no doubt about it, it will take more heat. I am curious though, just how much heat, in terms of rate of fire and round count. It is not like it matters much anyway, how many of us have full-auto lowers? Nonetheless, I am a fan of overbuilding.
There are unintended consequences. I did not hear of any gas tubes melting during the battle of Wanat, or any others. What in the world CONUS is going to require something stronger than milspec? What are the unintended consequences? How does qpq and those temps affect the inconel and its elasticity?
Please do not over think this. It is a non-stressed part with no moving parts. 99% of the people do not need it.
If I’m not mistaken isn’t the man behind v7 one of the founders of Noveske. If so, I’m pretty sure the guy is right up there with Noveske’s quality, and considering Noveske barrels run pretty high in cost, and considering v7 is not a large operation yet, the prices probably are set in a way to reflect r&d costs with manufacturing costs.
IMO if it’s too pricey buy something else. Same goes for the people that think KAC is over prices. Shit KAC has a 400+ $ muzzle device. Parts sell for what people are willing to pay.
No, he is NOT one of the founders of Noveske. There is NOTHING to claim they are Noveske quality, however, they are using ideas about projects that John Noveske talked with me about before his death. For clarity, I’m not talking about the barrels, I’m talking about some of the secondary parts.
You will have to excuse my level of brevity with this one, but there is more going on here that I don’t want to get into. There is a lot of bull being thrown around to bad mouth Johnny, his wife, and the employees of Noveske Rifleworks behind the scenes right now from certain people and I have an exceedingly low tolerance level for it. I want to nip this in the bud before it grows into a total thread of misinformation. If people don’t know factually what they are talking about, they should refrain from posting. If this thread was simply about V7, I wouldn’t bother to post anything, but it has turned into a different creature.
If mod/ staff have any questions about the above, feel free to contact me, or the SITE OWNER is welcome to contact the GM, owner or President of Noveske Rifleworks if there are questions about my credibility.
Here’s the info copied from the “about” section of the V7 website. I have no affiliation with the company so I cannot vouch for the veracity of any statements made.
Merry Christmas!
It all started back in 2000 when a young man named John came into Joel’s shop for supplies, after recently deciding to start a gunsmithing business in his dad’s garage. After one passionate conversation about Christ, country, and guns, an instant brotherhood was forged. The two young men, with wives and babies in tow, were inseparable as they combined forces to take over the world. After countless hours in the shop, blood, sweat, and tears, a legend had been born.
After losing his best friend & brother on January 4, 2013, Joel Allen began a new chapter. One that unfortunately no longer includes Noveske. And so became V7 WEAPON SYSTEMS.
Joel, his wife and a handful of other talented and experienced individuals from the AR-15 industry have been working around the clock to get the foundations laid for a new company in the world of firearms. With V7 WEAPON SYSTEMS now up and running full speed ahead and Mr. Allen’s years of experience at the top of the AR industry, the V7 team is excited to start bringing life to his vision of creating quality parts and developing new products for the AR platform.
Our company believes that weapons and their components should be made of the highest quality materials and workmanship. We expect our products to perform exceptionally well for our customers. We design them to be the best in form and function. This is why we offer a 100% lifetime warranty on all parts manufactured by V7 WEAPON SYSTEMS.
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…and yet it needs to be made of qpq treated inconel and cost $70+??? I don’t believe I’m the one overthinking the gas tube, here. As to qpq, its a thin part and the treatment could cause issues. This is why H&M would not do the decocking and other levers on my p226.
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2013/09/05/v7-weapon-systems/
“Do you have a pen and paper? Good. Make a note to keep an eye on V7 Weapon Systems. You may not know them know but you probably know the founder, at least tangentially. Joel Allen of Noveske Rifleworks fame is the man behind V7 Weapons Systems and that alone should inspire some confidence. V7 Weapon Systems is doing some things with AR-15 parts that I have never seen done before and that is pretty exciting.”
There is the quote from the jerking the trigger article posted above, I have no idea who Joel Allen is but it does not say he is a founder. I do not know where that rumor came from.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/10/18/v7-weapon-systems-gun-parts-manufacturer/
"Joel Allen, who was the lead tech at Noveske Rifleworks from when John Noveske founded the company up until, has started his own gun parts manufacturing business called V7 Weapon Systems. From the companies about page …
It all started back in 2000 when a young man named John came into Joel’s shop for supplies, after recently deciding to start a gunsmithing business in his dad’s garage. After one passionate conversation about Christ, country, and guns, an instant brotherhood was forged. The two young men, with wives and babies in tow, were inseparable as they combined forces to take over the world. After countless hours in the shop, blood, sweat, and tears, a legend had been born.
After losing his best friend & brother on January 4, 2013, Joel Allen began a new chapter. One that unfortunately no longer includes Noveske. And so became V7 WEAPON SYSTEMS.
Joel, his wife and a handful of other talented and experienced individuals from the AR-15 industry have been working around the clock to get the foundations laid for a new company in the world of firearms. With V7 WEAPON SYSTEMS now up and running full speed ahead and Mr. Allen’s years of experience at the top of the AR industry, the V7 team is excited to start bringing life to his vision of creating quality parts and developing new products for the AR platform.
Our company believes that weapons and their components should be made of the highest quality materials and workmanship. We expect our products to perform exceptionally well for our customers. We design them to be the best in form and function. This is why we offer a 100% lifetime warranty on all parts manufactured by V7 WEAPON SYSTEMS.
The company is making AR bolts, buffer tubes, pivots pins and other parts, apparently with many more to come.
- See more at: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/10/18/v7-weapon-systems-gun-parts-manufacturer/#sthash.DNSDuK3D.dpuf "
Another quote from the firearm blog clarifying he was a lead tech at Noveske not co founder.
The above is called riding the coat tails of a dead man. I have little use for it, or those who would stoop to such actions. If you want to use the name Noveske, buy the rights to the company. Otherwise the company may be forced to put out a statement talking about why people were released, if it were me, I would do it around the time a cease and desist letter came out. Then again, Mrs. Noveske is a lot nicer than I am.
With due respect and consideration to you Stick, I did just order an ejection port from them. I’ll advise on weight differences between that and a BCM port door.
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