Still can’t figure out how to quote a previous post with the new site…. anyhoo…
Yes, Warren vs DC, I know. My support of LE ended the day I learned of that.
Did not end my support for LE, it did reaffirm bigly that when seconds count they are only minutes away, and we are on our own when it matters.
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Select the text you want to quote and the “quote /copy quote” option pops up, so far for me over on the left.
Select one of those instead of the “reply” icon to the low right of a post.
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A opinion / experience of mine on this subject and on law enforcement in general. I’ll preference my opinions with some of my experience. 15 years A.D. 11B, and 10 years as a M.P. on military side. On the A.D. over 3 years of PSD when I was 11 series for V.I.P’s and G.O. including times in high threat areas. Multiple deployments to middle east Iraq, Kuwait ect. Followed with time as Contract armed security then Civ. Police, DoD then D.A. Police ending of 17 years right as I’m planning on my soon to retire from it. With time working with over 12 Civ. Law Enforcement agencies in multiple states.
To all L.E. Who are above board some of my comments are not at you. But you damn sure know you have seen this from some.
Many of the ones I have worked with you couldn’t depend on “going through the door” if s### was real. Of some that might you were more concerned about being shot by them. I’ve experienced both even in A.S. training. More than a few have flat out said they wouldn’t go if it was a real deal. This was in more than P.D. I’ve been in. Then the same clowns would leave you in the wind.
Am I surprised found not guilty no. I’ve been in court and listened to more than a few committing purjury on the stand. One who I worked with years ago was caught and many cases were overturned. Go figure he had resigned from a State P.D. and took job where I was at substantial less pay. Then moved to a different P.D. when it was catching up with him there.
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The primary benefit is that more police are on the streets because of qualified immunity than would otherwise be there if it didn’t exist. If police don’t have qualified immunity, they will have to purchase personal insurance policies so as not to be financially ruined if someone sues them. Where will they get the money for these insurance policies? It will come in the form of additional wages. Higher wages per officer means that fewer total officers can be employed. In most places, fewer officers results in higher crime rates. Meanwhile, the insurance companies will start making money off of these polices. They will settle most winnable cases in order to minimize litigation costs and pass these costs on in the form of policy increases. Lawyers will cash in by taking almost any client and suing no matter how frivolous the allegation. They don’t have to win at trial. They just have the make the officer’s insurance company’s cost of winning higher than the settlement amount. None of this is good for the public. Bottom line, be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.
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So why is a crime committed by one demographic considered a negative while a similar(or same) crime committed by another demographic considered a positive?
And yes I do know qi only applies to the civil side to add to the pass already received on the criminal side.
I’m not sure that I understand your question. If by demographic, you’re differentiating between those with police powers and those without, there isn’t a difference assuming someone with police powers actually commits a crime. That said, it’s important to remember that those who are given police powers are able to utilize those special powers without fear of prosecution. For example, a police officer has the power to pull over someone for driving above the speed limit. It likely would be a felony crime for me to do the same. If we didn’t allow these special police powers, there would be no mechanism for laws to be enforced. Of course, the purpose of government is to protect the rights of people from being violated by other people. At the same time, we don’t want government violating the rights of people either. Therefore, the special police powers have to be limited in scope. If an officer goes beyond the special police powers that are bestowed upon him, he can be prosecuted for a crime.
Not just police are effectively exempt from laws, either by statute or lack of enforcement.
Lack of enforcement has always been an issue and I suspect was the reason behind the token gesture of being granted the ability to sue via the Ku Klux Klan Act back in the 1870’s.