Using steel case ammo!

[tvfreakarms]

I’m sure people have asked this question plenty of time but I need to be reassured. I need to restock on ammo but the price of brass is way to expensive. I’m thinking of getting wolf ammo. But some people would rather drown to death or be burned alive rather than use a steel cased ammo. I’ve read that people won’t use steel case because it scratches the inside area of the ejection port area or the coatings on the ammo can leave residue which can lead to problems. If that’s the case and your
the type that don’t clean your rifle every time you shot ( i have a POF and i will admit i don’t clean it every time i shot) that could cause problems i assume.

Has anyone that used steel case ammo have any issues? What are other reason for people that won’t use steel case ammo?

Thanks.

[Lee_Indy]

buy bass and sell your once fired. makes up the difference.

[rdm]

@Lee_Indy

buy bass and sell your once fired. makes up the difference.

Don’t think bass will fit an AR

I concur.

[Lee_Indy]

its late. im not mart

[tvfreakarms]

Let me know how the bass work in the ar15 carbine. I’m really interested:D

[RogerinTPA]

@tvfreakarms

I’m sure people have asked this question plenty of time but I need to be reassured. I need to restock on ammo but the price of brass is way to expensive. I’m thinking of getting wolf ammo. But some people would rather drown to death or be burned alive rather than use a steel cased ammo. I’ve read that people won’t use steel case because it scratches the inside area of the ejection port area or the coatings on the ammo can leave residue which can lead to problems. If that’s the case and your
the type that don’t clean your rifle every time you shot ( i have a POF and i will admit i don’t clean it every time i shot) that could cause problems i assume.

Has anyone that used steel case ammo have any issues? What are other reason for people that won’t use steel case ammo?

Thanks.

If your weapon is properly chambered for 5.56, you should have no issues. I’ve fired north of 25K rounds of all kinds of eastern european ammo over the years, through 4 ARs, with no issues to date related to it. FYI, current production Federal practice ammo, gets their steel lacquered coated shells from Wolf.

[UVvis]

@tvfreakarms

I’m sure people have asked this question plenty of time but I need to be reassured. I need to restock on ammo but the price of brass is way to expensive. I’m thinking of getting wolf ammo. But some people would rather drown to death or be burned alive rather than use a steel cased ammo.

The issue here is mostly ignorance. Wolf tends not to be the hottest of loads, and when mixed with lower grade guns, you can run into issues. I’ve had more stuck cases with brass than steel. Rob_s wrote an article (I think) about shooting steel cases. Just pay more attention to lube.

@tvfreakarms

I’ve read that people won’t use steel case because it scratches the inside area of the ejection port area or the coatings on the ammo can leave residue which can lead to problems. If that’s the case and your the type that don’t clean your rifle every time you shot ( i have a POF and i will admit i don’t clean it every time i shot) that could cause problems i assume.

Scratches the inside of the ejection port? So what? If you use your weapon it will get dings, marks, wear in spots. Worn areas due to high round counts is awesome. Shows that you actually use your weapon.

The steal cases, and their coatings do not leave residue in your weapon. The old lousy neck sealants would, and add that you can get more carbon blow back around the steel case. They might dirty your weapon a bit faster, but more lube will take care of most of those issues. The neck sealant in the chamber can be cleaned out pretty fast with any solvent.

@tvfreakarms

Has anyone that used steel case ammo have any issues? What are other reason for people that won’t use steel case ammo?

Other reasons, ignorance, fear, uncertainty, lack of an adventurous spirit. Tiny, uh, nevermind.

My 11.5" BCM gun has fired about 4,600 rounds of steel case Hornady practice ammo, and 200 rounds of 62 gr wolf. Aside from a dead primer in a Hornady load, no issues to report. It has gone close to 3,000rds without cleaning.

Some might worry about it wearing out their extractor quickly. Some AR makers use crappy extractors. Put two and two together, and you’ll see that the issue probably isn’t the ammo.

Overall, I’ve fired about 15,000 rounds of steel cased ammo in the last few years (Hornady practice, Wolf, Brown Bear). I’ve had one stuck case. If I can save 1/4th the cost, and get more trigger time, the advantage is mine.

[tvfreakarms]

Good point. Can’t argue with that.

@UVvis

The issue here is mostly ignorance. Wolf tends not to be the hottest of loads, and when mixed with lower grade guns, you can run into issues. I’ve had more stuck cases with brass than steel. Rob_s wrote an article (I think) about shooting steel cases. Just pay more attention to lube.

Scratches the inside of the ejection port? So what? If you use your weapon it will get dings, marks, wear in spots. Worn areas due to high round counts is awesome. Shows that you actually use your weapon.

The steal cases, and their coatings do not leave residue in your weapon. The old lousy neck sealants would, and add that you can get more carbon blow back around the steel case. They might dirty your weapon a bit faster, but more lube will take care of most of those issues. The neck sealant in the chamber can be cleaned out pretty fast with any solvent.

Other reasons, ignorance, fear, uncertainty, lack of an adventurous spirit. Tiny, uh, nevermind.

My 11.5" BCM gun has fired about 4,600 rounds of steel case Hornady practice ammo, and 200 rounds of 62 gr wolf. Aside from a dead primer in a Hornady load, no issues to report. It has gone close to 3,000rds without cleaning.

Some might worry about it wearing out their extractor quickly. Some AR makers use crappy extractors. Put two and two together, and you’ll see that the issue probably isn’t the ammo.

Overall, I’ve fired about 15,000 rounds of steel cased ammo in the last few years (Hornady practice, Wolf, Brown Bear). I’ve had one stuck case. If I can save 1/4th the cost, and get more trigger time, the advantage is mine.

[RWBlue]

If you gun will not run 223 and will only run 5.56, then Wolf is not for you.

Otherwise, buy wolf poly coated and leave the steel casings for someone else to sweep up.

BTW, I have never had any luck selling my brass. I have just never found the market for it.

[DTHN2LGS]

I have no problem with using Hornady Training ammo with the steel case. Try some and see how it shoots in your gun.

Buy a spare extractor from Bravo Co. in case yours goes tits up just to cover the bases.

[Littlelebowski]

Works fine and saves money. Clean every 1k rds or so and have a spare extractor just in case.

[kmrtnsn]

I use Hornady steel cased training ammo; never a single hiccup.

[Sparky5019]

Works fine and saves money. Clean every 1k rds or so and have a spare extractor just in case.

What he said…

My gun runs flawlessly with Wolf, doesn’t get that dirty and is extremely accurate!

Sparky

[billpete]

I just ran about 750rds of 55gr Wolf through my brand new BCM mid-length with no issues this past weekend at a course. Everything from slow aimed shots for zeroing to NSRs–it was all good.

1 malfunction–a double feed. Not ammo related.

Keep the gun lubed, and you will be good to go.

[TY44934]

@kmrtnsn

I use Hornady steel cased training ammo; never a single hiccup.

What is so bad about steel case ammo? Every time someong brings up “steel case” on the web, the bashers pile on even though the ammo seems to work great for everyone who actually tries it.

[cbyrd556]

800 rounds of Brown Bear 62gr HP and no problems so far in my AR. At around 5 bucks per 20 rounds, it leaves me the money I need so I can go to the range and still buy beer.

[Saginaw79]

Ive used wolf as plinkin’ ammo for many years, only ever had 1 issue and they made it right

[Pumpkinheaver]

I have used Wolf, Brown Bear, Silver Bear, Sellier And Bellot and Tula steel cases ammo over the years and have never had a problem with any of it.

[warpigM-4]

Buy it and shoot it it works.as long as in goes bang I will shoot it .and I have never had a problem with wolf in any caliber

[Nam62]

I reload Wolf 45 ACP. Use them when I shoot in an area that it’s hard to find my spent brass.

I think Wolf 5.56 is Berdan primed and not worth reloading.