USAF war zone crews to get modified M4

I want one or two.

Gibson also said that the Air Force had officially designated the gun as the GAU-5/A, but the service already applied this designation during the Vietnam War-era to a variant of the original M16 rifle. This gun had a 10-inch barrel, which is shorter than present-day M4 with its 14.5-inch long barrel. There was also a GAU-5A/A with an 11.5-inch barrel. The Air Force primarily issued these guns to security personnel guarding planes and facilities on the ground.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21867/usaf-fighter-and-bomber-crews-get-modified-m4-rifles-that-fit-under-ejection-seats

I would prefer a Colt commando with A1 upper and fixed FSB and just store it divided into upper and lower but maybe that wouldn’t fit.

Have at it: http://www.cryhavoctac.com/qrb-kit.html

Here is the lo-pro case for it: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?196038-What-have-you-done-to-your-AR(s)-today/page66 Post #655 by Crow Command

Not sure if the Commando upper can fit in the space requirement;

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The GAU-5A ASDW’s are being converted and assembled at the USAF Gunsmith Shop, at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas. The Air Force confirmed that 2,137 ASDWs will be fielded with all combat coded A-10, B-1, B-2, B-52, F-15C, F-15E, F-16, and F-22 units. It will be stowed aboard aircraft in a compact kit including 4 magazines (120 rounds) and must all fit in the standard ejection seat survival kit. The kit measures 16″x14″x3.5″.
](http://https://www.overtdefense.com/2018/06/25/usafs-new-gau-5a-aircrew-self-defense-weapon/)

This is great. I’d rather our pilots have an M4 and 4 thirty round magazines instead of just a pistol.

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I’m being a nitpicky dork but I’m curious why this this uses the “GAU” designation instead of “GUU”.

The gun pictured in the article looks like it has an A1 lower receiver, like a lot of the USAF GAU-5s and later the GUU-5/Ps (When the GAUs were fitted with 1/7 barrels or uppers they became known as GUUs apparently) so it implies that at least some of these new aircrew survival weapons they are just getting new uppers as opposed to being whole new guns. (Although the gun pictured has a"1" on it and might just be a prototype thrown together using an A1 lower). Either way, I wonder why it’s not considered an evolution of the 1/7 twist GUU-5/P instead of the older 1/12 GAU series.
But again, I’m mostly just being a dork here.

GUU is for personal armament.

GAU is for aircraft armament.

The new GAU-5 technically is part of the aircraft; part of the ejection seat survival pack…

The old GAU-5 designation was made before the Air Force had personal armament that wasn’t Army type classified.

Correct. An MK 18 brown down as upper / Lower dies not fit.

Because it doesn’t fit under the ejection seat. It’s not about the Overall Lemgth. By using a QD barrel vs upper / Lower they get it to fit into the space available.

Yeah, the fact that it has to fit in a very small space is lost on some.

Glad to see this development - odds of it seeing actual use are low, but better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. :wink:

Interesting article. The quick note on the Bushmaster Arm Pistol was amusing as well. Goofy thing for sure. Makes sense now though…I do remember seeing it on their older logos but not sure if I ever knew (until now) exactly what it was.

Facepalm

I’m ashamed that didn’t occur to me on my own.

We are very proud to be envolved with this project. :cool:

Schweet!

I have an AR pistol with a LAW Tactical folding stock adapter, and a 11.5" BCM barrel. These items could make it an even more compact and versatile package.

I’ll be in touch with you gents. :slight_smile:

Does anyone have any first hand experience with the Cry Havoc Tactic QRB? I’d be interested in hearing first hand comments on how durable/reliable the system is. How easy/hard is it for those forward facing levers to accidentally get knocked loose?

I think the concept has merit. Put one of these on an AR pistol and you would have an extremely compact package that you could stash just about anywhere.

Considering its use it really only needs to last and be reliable for 4 mags worth of ammo. Beyond that you’re either rescued or killed/captured.

Interesting concept, hopefully they develop the TTP’s and the reoccurring training to back it up.

Sweet baby Harambe, a folding knife??

That will work great when batoning firewood…oh wait, it won’t. Sigh.

Come on…a downed aircrewman in a survival situation isn’t going to be in a situation where the second or so gained in the gross motor skill of having practiced drawing from the holster in the survival vest is going to make a difference. All that gear is about being able to simply have the equipment following an ejection…not the presentation of it for use in some fighting scenario.

We are talking about giving guys a fighting chance to avoid starring in their own internet beheading/murder video, not taking part in a raid on foot. Anything more capable than an M9 makes a difference.

FWIW, in the units that I’m familiar with, they moved some of the equipment out of the seat pack and on to the survival vest itself to make room for the M4 (which was the initial iteration of this project – an M4 that was essentially chopped off at the FSB).

Exactly… Thank you.

Just ask the Jordanian pilot that was captured and burned alive in a cage a few weeks later by ISIS.

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