For some reason this really pisses me off, and I don’t like seeing our soldiers in this type of crap.
Among other issues this is why we have been there for 10 years. In fact right about this week isn’t it?
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Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. The question is: how far backwards do we need to bend to prevent another backwards terrorist state to reemerge and do this crap over again, or do we cowboy up and educate them that their religion is way past its prime by about several centuries.
Yeah, I hate it, too, Blemont. But the retards we are “trying” to gain favor with are more superstitious and cruel to their women than the Puritans were.
yeah that steams my twinkies
complete BS PC world is making me sick !
Reading further into it, they only wear them for a solemn gesture, but when the shooting starts, or on patrol, the helmets are on.
And apparently they are effective.
If they’d worried less about their pissing scarves and more about how to properly put a damn fire out we’d have probably gotten even more good will.
Apparently they are not because we have been there for 10 years.
Did we not already address this same topic in another thread a few months back. This is a positive thing, ground commanders exploiting every availble option to gain an edge over the ememy. Female engagement teams have a huge impact on the battle space from a CA stand point. They are not wearing the hejab on missions only when they enter a home to speek with women. Its a sign of respect to show that you value there culture it will get you a long way.
Also the one with out rank is clearley of persian desent.
FUCK AFGHANISTAN! Having said that. Why are we still there? Because the people who work at the Dept. of State and the idiot in the White House seem to think that we are going to change that country and everything will be fine.
They still cannot understand the fact that democracy doesn’t work in countries like Afghanistan. The average person there is illiterate and uneducated. Their belief in Allah and their allegiance to their own tribe/clan/ village, etc… trumps that of national interests.
We are simpy spending more money that we don’t have. We need to pull out, take everything with us and wish them a good life. We can’t even fix the mess we are in at home and yet somehow we are going to fix problems that have been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years.
If they want to beat their wives, grow poppy all day and play with little boys, let them. We need to get out, use some of our intel assets to monitor the situation and if Al-Qaeda or whomever shows their face again we send a few Tomahawks over as a friendly warning.
Is it a tactic, or capitulation?
Were you referring to my post? If so,
At what point do we call it a success or failure?
We have been there 10 years and the country is still fucked up.
You cannot change the will of the people that do not function the way that you and I do.
What are we trying to accomplish? We have already routed the Taliban for the most part, we have killed Bin Laden and we have killed most of the top leadership. Unless we are prepared to go to war with Pakistan (which it should be obvious by now is helping them stick around) what else should we be doing?
I was just referring to the wearing of head scarves.
Fixed it for ya’. The ONLY resource Afghanistan has, is sand & rocks, and we had MORE than enough of THAT here in America BEFORE 9/11. Nuke & FUDGE 'EM, I say. These are the people Sam Kinison was railing about 25 years ago - nothing EVER improves there!
Not sure what those broads are doing over there in the first place. 
We are doing it wrong. Kill your enemy, dont placate them.
If we had waged “war” we would have been done 5 years ago…
I agree with everything said but the US does not fight wars it plays games
Imagine the absurdity if we forced females members of the military serving with occupational forces in Japan in 1946 to wear kimonos.
Different time, different mindset. The Japanese knew they were beaten, and an American occupation, while still abhorrent to many Japanese nationalists, was far better than a Soviet landing on Hokkaido (which could have happened had the war dragged on into 1946).
IG hit the nail on the head. Afghanistan and Iraq are this generation’s Vietnam. Follow the money.
IMHO, it’s a good tactic. I’m willing to wear a man dress if it helps me blend in and do my job. T.E. Lawrence learned that early on and it allowed him to effectively perform his mission (mapping the water sources) which later one assisted the British in their advancement across some of the driest and most inhospitable deserts in the Middle East.
I joined the Army when most of the trainers (Mid to Senior NCOs) were Vietnam Vets. The beat into us the importance of blending in, not just to your surroundings but also with the very individuals you are fighting (if appropriate). Standing out like a sore, American thumb overseas is never a good idea. Some adopted to carrying and using AK-47s and wearing black pajamas and a conical hats because this provided them with some very distinct advantages (depending on their mission).
Whether you agree with our reasons for being in A-stan or not; the wearing of the headscarf is akin to understanding the native culture and sometimes adopting the native dress. This is nothing new, the United States have used this approach long before it was a nation.
As someone who was born and raised in a Third World country, I can tell you that a lot of them will accept you more freely if you tried to emulate them especially if you are able to speak their language and practice some of their culture. And in the end, if this allows us to better fulfill our mission and bring our guys home safe-and-sound, what harm is it if we have to wear a headscarf.
NOTE: I am not by any means suggesting that my opinion applies to every unit we have deployed. I am looking at this as that of a Civil Affairs Officer whose mission is very different to that of the Infantry.
Couldn’t agree more, and that is exactly the problem we have today. Nobody at the administration level is willing to fight a real war, so nobody has been made to understand they were defeated.
If we did the same thing during WWII we would have waged war against “national socialism”, “facism” and “imperialism” rather than against specific countries and peoples and we’d probably still be fighting guerrilla wars with werewolf battalions and elements of the black dragon societies.