Tom Gresham (Guntalk) talked about this on his podcast on 3-15. On his page listen to the Part B and Part C section of the 3-15 show. This move by the DOD is real and we need to deal with this now. He said that everyone needs to contact their Rep’s and just overload them with mail, calls and personal visits.
This comes down to lost American jobs, lost income by the Govt. and just a plain waste of our tax dollars. He doesn’t get worked up about much gun legislation, but this has him fired up.
This will impact everyone because the price of ammo will skyrocket even more for all ammo not just .223. Hit IT!!
Remember you are contacting your Federal Reps. Listen to Tom’s podcast for good talking points to include in your letter and end it with letting them know that they will become unemployed if this is not dealt with.
That’s a good start, but will only be effective if everyone backs it up with good old fashioned snail-mail. Inboxes can be deleted with a push of a button, but sacks of mail and swamped phone lines are more difficult to ignore…
Actually no, by practice if not by law, constituent correspondence is always maintained. It’s always a good idea to let Congress know you’re watching, and while bags and bags of snail mail may get more “pop”, email is perfectly valid. The only time such correspondence is deleted is 1. If you’re not a constituent of the Congressman/Senator (yes they check the address). 2. Abusive/threatening language. 3. Anonymous, no return address.
However I’m confused, in reading your article, the only thing that is mentioned is “exports” of ammunition to Canada, not “imports” of ammunition into the US. While you may disagree with the proposal the 2a doesn’t apply.
Perhaps there are other sources of good information? NRA-ILA?
NRA , SAF , and members of Congress are reported to be on this with both feet. www.theakforum.net
The story seemed to explode on the net Friday afternoon , some versions were truly hysterical. Tough to sort things out over a weekend.
Sort of looks like ( maybe) a dumb middle manager in DOD Property Disposal decided to to do it for the children.
From what a buddy told me in an email this morning, that website posting that is a misunderstanding:
Larry,
That is what Georgia Arms thinks, but actually there is a provision for resale:
DOD 4715.4 authorizes QRPs to recycle firing-range scrap consisting of expended
brass and mixed metals gleaned from firing range clearance through direct sales or
consignment to DRMS. Mixed metals gleaned from firing range clean up are defined
as material (e.g., shrapnel) which is in a form that is unrecognizable from its original configuration and does not require further DEMIL. For information, the DOD
Instruction requires that generators in CONUS who choose to sell expended brass
through direct sale must mutilate it by crushing, shredding, cutting, tearing, scratching crushing, breaking, punching, shearing, burning, neutralizing, etc., or otherwise destroy it prior to sale. If generators sell expended brass through DRMS there is no mutilation requirement. The rule for OCONUS is different. OCONUS QRPs can recycle expended brass through the DRMO. In order to qualify for reimbursement, the generator must demilitarize it prior to turning accountability over to the DRMO.
“SV” or Scrap Venture sales are totally different from brass being auctioned by DRMO.
Brass destined to be sold as once-fired ammunition goes to DRMO/DRMS and is UNAFFECTED.
Apparently you can still get it on gov liquidation but there are some conflicting rumors on that and thats all it is.
So… should we all start selling our .223 rifles? I mean, if this is going to do what some suspect it will do, will .223/5.56 soon be costing $1 a round on the cheap side? $2 a round? If so, maybe I should dump off the 4 I have and get 4 more AK’s and a couple SKS’s and just keep burning the Russian Wolf 7.62x39 for $0.38 a round?
It’s a damn shame if it is as it sounds in that article. I agree, reading the text sounds as if ALL is being considered at SV.
The way it was described to me was any mill brass from use within the continential US would NOT be considered SV. Any mil brass used outside the continental would 100% for sure be considered SV and destroyed accordingly.
found this on another site…have already asked if anyone knows how it originated?? dod / military / admin / congress. Waiting for the nra-ila myself:
this hit the internet thursday, and i ask any and all to obtain a confrimation.
today i have confirmed that the dod/surplus sales auctions have stopped the sale of small arms brass for resale, it must be destroyed.
today i talked to Kay scharch of scharch mfg/top brass and she confrimed they are no longer allowed to purchase brass for resale.
forget the anti-gun version of this, consider just the dollars lost by this decision. brass for scrap will not generate the funds brass for resale will. this is an economic hardship on all taxpayers and a stupid move during an economic down turn.
contact your politicians…my opinon is to not make it a progun/antigun issue , but a money issue.
I’m on the SurplusNews@govliquidation.com and I didn’t get this alleged email. I’m currently calling shenanigans that some one forged some headers on a few strategically sent emails to whip up a frenzy.
Like its been said before, there are a lot of well connected gun people looking into this, an issue thats been ripening since Friday and here we are at 3pm EST and still no one has an answer?
I highly doubt that several remanufacturers and dealers are all bullshitting us on this, knowing full well they’d eventually be caught out. It’s not like they weren’t backordered already.
I wish that writing my Senators would do any good but both of them have F ratings from the NRA and my Congressman has a D. All three are likely to be dancing a jig over the DOD’s decision to help protect the kids. I donate to and volunteer to whom ever runs against those clowns but they keep getting elected. TO those of you that have elected officials that are sympathetic please write.
All the reloaded stuff I see is more expensive now than new American stuff just a couple years ago. Q3131 could be had all day long at Sports Authority and Bass Pro for $5.99 or less a year ago. Ammo prices looks to have little to do with materials and once fired brass and much to do with demand.
