I was shooting my Springfield loaded model a few weeks ago and had the malfunction as seen in the pic twice in about 100 rds.
It looks almost like a stovepipe but not quite. The empty is laying right on top of the one trying to go in the chamber. Both times it was exactly like this.
I haven’t had problems with this gun except for extractor issues and I replaced the OEM extractor with a Wilson and fixed that about a year ago. No problems until now.
The ammo was my reloads using a 200 gr LSWC and I use this load more than anything else.
Sorry for the poor image quality but all I had was my iPhone and it was getting dark.
I usually don’t even count how many rounds I put though a gun but that one has in the neighborhood of 2000 rds through it. The recoil spring has been changed out three times for sure. Not sure how many rounds the current spring has on it but I figure well it’s under 1000. I usually use Wolff springs for my pistols.
Just to cut down on the possibilities of what might be causing this, I’m assuming you’ve shot the exact same loads in other guns without any problems? If so then obviously it is in fact that gun in particular.
Start small when troubleshooting. I’d start with swapping just the recoil spring first, regardless of its current usage. If that doesn’t work, go back to the recoil spring you’re currently using and swap just the extractor out. If that doesn’t work swap out both parts and test again. This way you’re testing the reliability of just one part at a time so you can narrow down the cause a little easier. That’s about all I got for now, good luck.
Don’t know what I was typing. I actually meant to mention the EJECTOR and extractor…I would not be surprised if the EJECTOR was chipped or otherwise damaged.
Just to cut down on the possibilities of what might be causing this, I’m assuming you’ve shot the exact same loads in other guns without any problems? If so then obviously it is in fact that gun in particular.
I use the same load with my Commander and S&W 4506 with no issues.
Start small when troubleshooting. I’d start with swapping just the recoil spring first, regardless of its current usage. If that doesn’t work, go back to the recoil spring you’re currently using and swap just the extractor out. If that doesn’t work swap out both parts and test again. This way you’re testing the reliability of just one part at a time so you can narrow down the cause a little easier. That’s about all I got for now, good luck.
The troubleshooting part I can figure out. The reason I asked is that I’d never seen a stoppage like that let alone two on one shooting session and was wondering if anyone else had experienced something like that.
Don’t know what I was typing. I actually meant to mention the EJECTOR and extractor…I would not be surprised if the EJECTOR was chipped or otherwise damaged.
I thought about the ejector the other day. I just now field stripped the gun to look at the ejector. It’s not chipped but very slightly peened on the contact surface. I had to use a magnifier to see that.
Haha, it’s all good.
The first thing I would look at is the extractor, too.
The extractor is an aftermarket Wilson which is one of the better brands of 1911stff.
After that day at the range where it started hafing this issue I took the extractor out when I cleaned the gun and it looks fine. One of the things I always do when I clean any semiauto is to take a toothbrush to the extractor hook and clean any crud out. With the 1911’s I take the extractor out every so many outings and flush out the extractor holw with brake cleaner AND scrub the hell out of the extractor itself.
The orig extractor was swapped out with the Wilson about 500 rounds ago and I haven’t had any issues with it yet.
Its a failure to eject. The spent round doesn’t even look like it tried to tip up and out, but was pushed up the breach face by the next round in the magazine.
Was the rim of that spent round was still somewhat under the extractor hook? Do the SA Loaded’s use an extended ejector?
I’m betting its your handloads, had enough poop to pop, but no fully cycle. And you may have the extractor adjusted a little too tight.
That was my first thought as well, but the more I looked at the picture, the more curious it became.
I’d love to see a pic from the top, but… It looks like the extractor never released the casing and it just got pushed up the breach face, wedging it against the guide block opposite the extractor.
Its a failure to eject. The spent round doesn’t even look like it tried to tip up and out, but was pushed up the breach face by the next round in the magazine.
Was the rim of that spent round was still somewhat under the extractor hook? Do the SA Loaded’s use an extended ejector?
It was still under the hook. That 1911 uses a short ejector.
I’m betting its your handloads, had enough poop to pop, but no fully cycle. And you may have the extractor adjusted a little too tight.
It’s 5.1 grains of Titegroup and a 200 gr LSWC. That loading is right in the middle according to Hodgdon’s reloading data site. It works fin e in the other guns. The extractor works fine every time before this.
Horizontal stoevepipe is usually insufficient extractor tension.
It is an aftermarket extractor and I’ve put maybe 500 rds though it since replacing the extractor without issues.
Hiltom Yam’s got a great reference with pics of common 1911 functions.
I’m sure a child knows more about handloading than I do, so don’t take my opinion serious.
I just think it would be logical to assume that the casing would act differently if re-used too many times. Maybe I would suggest running some first time handloads and see if you can get the same result, or even running some new rounds for a bit. Could be the specific design and condition of your gun that is causing problems, even though the rounds are assembled to the correct specs.
