The country is split ideologically. One half sides with russia, the other, sides with the EU. One half is doing all the rioting, the other, not so much.
I see a repeat of 1956 Hungary. Tanks will roll, people will disappear and the government will do as it desires.
What I find hilarious…
Obama said if anything bad happens…there will be consequences.
I think the whole situation is a “Damned if you do damned if you don’t” type deal.
Let’s face it, the EU is the last place I’d want to go to for sanctuary. Of course Russia is t much better.
Another US-UK “Color Revolution”.
The bastards are getting paid to protest.
Yanukovich has issues but nothing like the “Heartland Theory”-loving West.
Deconstructing Russia, eh, Brzezinski?
It will soon get hot if this crap continues; like one million degrees hot.
And Americans lap up the misdirection like candy…
“One cannot awaken a man who pretends to be asleep.”
I know, most don’t have a clue. I gave up trying to help & educate it was completely a waste & futile. I have not seen one post to date here that says: Hmmm, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Venezuela, MB, Radicals, Islamofascism, EU, IMF, NATO, Global Warming, Polar Vortex, EMP’s, CME’s & a completely divided USA (culturally, economically, racially, religious, transhumanism, LBGT, DEM vs. GOP, militarily, propaganda & Media of Mass Distraction etc.
Of course we did elude to the “Hegelian Dialectic” how many years ago ?
The Band played on…NBC
Been reading the same, with the addition that one half is basically ethnic Russian and speaks Russian, thanks to serious Russian settlement efforts during Stalin’s reign, while the other half is largely ethnic Ukrainian and (surprise!) speaks Ukrainian. Basically it’s two nations, ethnically and linguistically, that have an artificial set of borders based on history. Just like much of the middle east. Best thing would be for it to divide peacefully.
Care to break it down for me?
I feel it might turn into a Yugoslavia affair. Bloody.
Speaking of Yugoslavia…
http://news.uk.msn.com/comment-and-analysis/bosnian-unrest-a-united-economic-uprising
Oh, brother. Not again.
You know. You could just try the old “front door approach” and just spell it out.
The truce didn’t even last a day.
“Truce crumbles amid gunfire in Ukraine, at least 20 dead”
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/20/world/europe/ukraine-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Ah, Bosnia. Nice quote:
“The people of Bosnia have finally understood who their true enemy is: not other ethnic groups, but their own leaders who pretend to protect them,” Slavoj Žižek writes in The Guardian.
This may be the european round of the “arab spring” stuff we saw a few years ago, driven by a mix of food shortages, general economic decline, and more attention to government corruption and injustice by people who are hungry and have lots of free time. Nothing got solved in the mideast and chances are nothing will get solved in these countries either.
Mini-documentary on the Ukraine from Vice. A little under 30 minutes.
[video=youtube_share;7eTuFAR169s]http://youtu.be/7eTuFAR169s[/video]
The Ukraine is really three countries, land that was once Poland, the major cities and the rural villages. The far west portion was actually Poland prior to Stalin and Hitler calling dibs, those people are catholic and were always ostracized and persecuted under the Soviet government. The rest is Eastern Orthodox and an odd mix; the major cities speak Russian and the rural areas speak Ukranian. The languages are actually fairly different. My great-grandmother lived in a small village about 90 min (by train) from Kiev and she spoke Ukranian and Yiddish, never really spoke Russian. Oh and I mean village, when she passed away in 1989 she had a old school well (rope, bucket and hand crank), outhouse and was essentially a subsistence farmer. She did make some awesome moonshine according to my dad.
During the Soviet era schools in the Ukraine did not begin teaching Ukranian until the second grade. I left a month into second grade and therefor even learned Ukranian. Listening to the news I understand only one of every five words.
As said before, the majority of Ukranians despise Russians.
Damn moskali. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskal ]
So knowing more of the culture than us native Americans, is what is going on good for the Ukraine, with the eye of going more align to the West and away from Putin, or bad thing in giving Putin more room to get a stronger hold of the Ukraine? It has seem that Poland and the Ukraine were always the turf for the turf war of East and West.
[video=youtube_share;Hvds2AIiWLA]http://youtu.be/Hvds2AIiWLA[/video]
Ukrainian Police is using lethal force on the people now and there’s now talk about the Ukrainian Military getting deployed to crush the protesters via 1989 PLA Tiananmen Square style.
[video=youtube_share;T6IbEIBhb8o]http://youtu.be/T6IbEIBhb8o[/video]
I think what Putin wants is reunification and the majority of Ukranians don’t. One of the problems is that Ukraine does not have a lot of natural resources, very fertile soil, but no oil or gas… Some coal but not a lot. The culture in rural Ukraine was always an agrarian one, it was the “bread basket” of the Soviet Union. Now Russia has a ton of oil and natural gas, and the gas pipelines going from the Russian Far East to Europe pass through the Ukraine, they were getting discounted rates because the pipelines were on their lands. Every time the gov. in Kiev did something Putin did not like, he would turn off the gas. People are sick of being under his thumb. They tasted freedoms for a bit and as anyone would, they liked it, now the current president is taking away rights because he is a puppet. I have no idea how he was elected but some believe the election was fraudulent and influenced by Putin. Whatever he is now, he is always a KGB guy first.