The U.N. is holding a conference right now to circumvent the 2nd amendment, World wide gun treaty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lril8eqqN00&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=985zptp3-q0&feature=share
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Saw this over on the 68forums and thought would share, everyone needs to be aware of.
p.s. I posted this here because unable to post in general discussion
No offense, but don’t you think the reason they have specific forums and a limit for General Discussion… is because they want specific stuff where it’s supposed to go?
Well, the preppers might find useful as well seeings how we like to stock up on guns…
Do they let UN Soldiers load their weapons yet? :jester:
Given that the US Army makes up the bulk of the NATO and UN Peace Keepers…I’m not too worried about this.
Any treaties have to be signed by 2/3rds of the Senate, and they can not violate the Constitution. Even though Roberts gave us unlimited taxes he has been on board for the gun cases.
If Obama does sign the treaty, treaties to become law, cannot violate the Constitution, and require 2/3rds majority of the Senate.
As much as a scumbag as Reed is he has a pro gun streak in him, and even if he was a rabid anti gunner theres not 67 votes in the Senate to sign onto this.
U.N… U.N… Nope - no mention of THEM in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, OR the Federalist Papers.
Sorry - they can decide the moon is made of bleu cheese, for all I care. U.N. Treaties do not affect me. EVER. :mad:
Treaties are specifically mentioned in the Constitution…
I have already sent this to my Senators click the Button at the Bottom of the article and send to your senators
But…treaties mustn’t violate other constitutional precedent.
I see it like this:
(interpretation by the Supreme Court of) the Constitution>treaties
My rights>however the above is applied :jester:
And, if they disregard that, well…why did the founders have guns again?
The People are the ultimate check and balance…
Why do people who persist on ranting about the Constitution never actually take the time to read, let alone understand it?
The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. Treaties can supersede a law, they do not supersede the Constitution itself. You cannot have a treaty that eliminates the rkba anymore than you could have a treaty that eliminates a branch of government, taxation, the Army, habeas corpus, freedom of speech or a Republican form of government.
Even if it could, any treaty must be ratified by 2/3rds vote…ain’t gonna happen.
Amen.
I seem to remember some rhetoric about avoiding foreign entanglements too
Couldn’t have been better said.
Already mentioned…
It bears repeating.
But according to Sec Def Leon Panetta, the North Atlantic TREATY Organization/ UN has unlimited authority to order the US armed forces to war. Congress will be told about it later.
BTT: Even if the US doesn’t participate in this abomination, couldn’t the flow of guns and ammo from Europe be completely obliterated? Goodbye Glock, HK, FN, Steyr, CZ, Beretta, PPU, WPA, Barnaul, IMI, etc.
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That could be good in the long run though. More business and opportunity for entrepreneurs here to produce ammo and weapons.
Please show me a precedent of any Constitutional provision being superseded by the Constitution.
I can think of at least one, and can find more, precedent of a treaty provision being ruled unconstitutional for being in conflict with the Constitution.
I’d like to see what Panetta actually said, rather than what you’re saying he said. My guess is that you missed something. If you didn’t he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Yes if other nations pass and enforce this treaty their local arms industries would no longer be exportable. News flash, foreign made assault weapons haven’t been importable into the US for over two decades. That’s why most of the manufacturers you mentioned have US production facilities.
Thank you. :suicide2:
Glock is made in the USA and Austria- Austria is not part of NATO.
PPU is made in Serbia. Not part of NATO
IMI is made in Israel. Also not part of NATO
Barnaul is made in Russia.
Stop panicking, take the time to actually READ stuff.