Good read. . .
http://blogs.forbes.com/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/
I have been out of school for about 25 years or so, so someone correct me if I am wrong. This so-called treaty has to be approved by the full senate.
As I remember the Constitution of the United States rules above any treaties and those treaties cannot be in contravention to the constitution. That being the case if it doesn’t pass the smell test then it would null and void. I would love to hear what some of our scholars have to say.
From page 2 of the article.
In January 2010 the U.S. joined 152 other countries in endorsing a U.N. Arms Treaty Resolution that will establish a 2012 conference to draft a blueprint for enactment. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has pledged to push for Senate ratification.
With our Constitution it’s high time that “We The People” need to send the UN packing.
Takes 67 votes to ratify a treaty IG.
The President actually ratifies a treaty by his signature but it has to pass through the Senate for approval…
With a 2/3rds majority vote (i.e 67 votes…beyond veto proof). 66 out of 100 can vote for it and it still fails.
Most treaties are NOT ratified.
I’ve got a $100 bucks that says it ain’t gonna happen.
Clinton can push to have the Senate ratify but that does not mean it is going to happen.
With regards to treaties, some people claim that treaties are higher than (or equal to and not superseded by) the Constitution based on Article VI
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
I say hogwash but this thinking has a lot of followers.
Thanks for the refresher in civics. I had a feeling I was somewhere on the right track. I also predict it will die a fiery death and it would political suicide for Congresscritters.
BTW- It’s “martial law” not marshal.
While I agree, I never underestimate our Senate and Representatives ability or willingness to sell out our nation.
Just because something is theoretically possible doesn’t mean it’s likely. You’d have to convince more than a dozen republicans, who are in no mood to give the President any kind of victory, to go against their party and the nation mood to pass this treaty. It may garner 1 or 2 republicans but no more than that.
Also, what would stop O from packing the Supreme Court the way F.D.R. threatened to do, (by adding seats favorable to his position), in order to get a treaty like that ratified?
What are you talking about?
Even though he has the constitutional power to appoint a vacancy, FDR’s court packing scheme failed. The courts have no power over treaties and the President has no power to pack the Senate.
Let’s keep this discussion within the realm of reality.
Another point to consider, is that Marshal Law would have to be declared in order to suspend civil rights for total confiscation. Not meaning to drag L.E. into this in fear of getting the thread locked, but I don’t know of any southern officer willing to do that. Besides, the turmoil that would create would just invite the U.N. to take action, (blue helmets in your yard, anyone?)
You mean martial law? The rest of the above statement is goofball.
Cool…I’ve got a $100 right here? Takers? 
There’s a lot of things that have happened recently that I would have thought were not probable or plausible to happen & did…
Hell, I will back it with another $100.
Dude I’d settle for a pair of your tactical wellies.
This is why the Presidency and SCOTUS are so important, especially SCOTUS. We all know that the treaty would violate the 2nd, but with attrition they can put enough Dem appointees on the court, and viola- they either void the right, or say that the Treaty actually doesn’t violate it. Recent decisions make it harder, but corrupt regime protection treaties like this for some reason make liberals weak in the knees.
Not me, since I think it will not happen. I just don’t rule anything out;)
Don’t make fun of the Hog-Sloppin’ boots. What happens at South Hill, stays at South Hill. And those were Cabelas brand straight from Wheeling, WV.
Plus, I am not betting you, I am doubling your bet! 67 votes against the NRA for a wet dream UN gun ban? Snowball, meet Hell.
I was so NOT making fun of your boots.
Those were awesome.
Hey, it beat cleaning that nasty, red clay piedmont mud off of my good leather. That stuff gets on gear, it doesn’t come out easy.