Does SOG Armory build a good rifle for the money? I’m looking at the Warrior as of right now (With the monolith free-float). Is there a “better” option for the money, performance/quality-wise?
Is there a signifigant advantage or disadvantage to “upgrading” to 6.8 over the ever-popular 5.56? Are SOG rifles dependable in 6.8 as well as 5.56?
Thanks so much for your time and knowledge…
~Bobby
EDIT Still looking on info for above, but am also interested in LWRC M2A2 listed on SOG’s site. Looks like a FINE piece of equipment. BUT are they worth the extra money, for the piston setup and 1:7 barrel? Thanks
I don’t know anything about SOG Armory but given the specs for the “Warrior” rifle on their website, I would pass (4140 barrel steel, chrome-moly not chrome lined barrel, 1:9 twist barrel, no mention of HPT or MP testing, etc.) For $1800 you could build a comparable rifle using a quality base rifle from BCM, LMT, Daniel Defense or a number of other manufacturers…hell, even using a Colt 6920 you could probably build a similar rifle for less than $1800.
So other than price of ammunition, are there any pros or cons to consider in shooting 6.8 over 5.56? More stopping power? Reliability issues?
Thanks!
**As for SOG, they’re in Houston. I wondered why I didn’t see many pictures of them on here (Haven’t found any, really). And the LWRC I mentioned with the piston setup, is $2,399 a fair price on one in 6.8? $2,499 for 5.56?
Their AR’s are overpriced for what they offer. I would seriously look at around. A quick peek at BCM and you could build a serious AR for just under 1000.00.
Are you saying SOG is overpriced or LWRC’s Piston rifles? I found an M6A1 online for $1,698 + shipping… seems like a good price, includes the monolith rail setup.
Not to chase you away, as this forums is great for AR info, but there is a lot of info on the 6.8SPC along with many vendors who specialize in it at 68forums.com.
Both SOG and LWRC seem overpriced. I’m currently using a Stag 5H 6.8 upper on a fully equipped Daniels Defense lower I got from one of our vendors, G&R Tactical. The whole deal, with some extra mags (which on the 6.8 tend to be expensive) was about $950. No need to throw away money on a tacticool sounding name, go with the know quality manufacturers. Even Daniels Defense will be coming out with a couple 6.8 rifles this summer.
It’s not the first M4 platform for me, just looking for something different than my 5.56, not that there’s anything wrong with it, I just like options. Since I posted this, I have been researching 6.5 Grendel, and think that would be an interesting caliber to build-up, with either an 18" or 20" barrel.
So, back to my main concern at this point in time,
PISTON RIFLES:
Where should I start looking? Why does LWRC Claim to have designed the system, and everyone thinks they’re overpriced for what they are? It’s confusing me a little, but I’m not trying to argue with anyone, just looking for some facts. I have ruled out 6.8 for my first PISTON carbine, so what should I look into for value and reliability in that field?
Thanks for the info, I was suprised that people didn’t like SOG weapons. I love their knives…
Lol… hence the " " following that comment. I didn’t know there was a SOG Armory until I happened across a carbine on GunBroker.
Speaking of which, anyone have experience with the new Les Baer Gas Piston rifles? They look nice, and I’ve heard they can build a nice 1911, how about a rifle? But a 1:8 barrel, I’ve never sot one, personally…
Just log your ass onto Bravo Company’s website right now and get yourself a badass 14.5" or 16" Mid-length carbine, with the top tier rail over your choice, that SOG couldn’t even dream of nearing with their bullshit builds.
One of my friends bought several carbines from SOG for several of his employees to take a class out at Blackwater. Not one, but TWO of the bolts in the guns he bought from SOG Armory literally snapped in half while firing!:eek: These were VERY low round-count guns too. They were also told upon buying the AR15s that the BCGs (and possibly other components such as the bbl) were made by Colt (this was during the height of the Obama gun scare buy off).
When my buddy got back home from his carbine class, he went up to SOG and dropped his 2 broken bolts on their counter. The excuse that SOG gave my friend (who btw is a former 0311 Marine with plenty of time kicking down doors and killing bad guys in Iraq), was that, “You have to properly clean these things and keep them well lubed with CLP. That’s exactly why they broke right there!”
My friend damn near went ballistic on the dude, but held his temper and instead just asked for brand new bolts.
I think I remember what happened afterwards, but I don’t wanna say because I could be wrong, so I’ll just leave it at that. I might actually still have the pics of the 2 broken bolts on my computer somewhere. I wanted to make sure I took pics of them b/c I’d never seen anything like that happen in my life. If any of you are interested, I can try can look for them and post them here tomorrow. That’s IF I still have them though. I deleted a lot of firearms pics awhile back, but hopefully I held onto those at least.
For “2 or 3 quick questions” you sure are all over the place. Like someone else suggested, go read the 68Forums for all you’ll ever want to know about the caliber. Hell, if you’re stuck on staying here on M4C, do a search…plenty of info comparing 5.56, 6.8spc, 6.5g, etc. both here and there.
While you’re at it, search here on LWRC and you’ll find out about some quality issues and crappy customer service.
If you want a quality 6.8 rifle right out of the box, go to Wilson Combat. You’ll find out a lot about Bill’s rifles on 68Forums, too.
Just FYI - It’s either monolithic or it isn’t - “monolithic style” is simply aesthetics and is the same as a upper receiver with a Larue handguard (with a 3/4" gap on it) from a functional standpoint. Yes, it looks nicer, but it’s functionally worthless.
