It seems like overnight Trump’s re-election chances have dropped precipitously. Between the bumpstock BS, the other gun grabber crap about restraining orders and caving in on the wall (his primary issue) with no leverage left. Does anyone think Trump stands a chance at re-election?.. and maybe an even more important question, does anyone still want him re-elected?
I’ll be honest, he’s had some positives, my income taxes were lowered rather substantially and we havetwo new originalist SCOTUS members (along with other federal judges) in our favor, but is it enough to continue supporting him? I struggle with that question, I think I will support him in re-election, after all I did begrudgingly vote for GWB after he asked congress to renew the AWB (something that irked me a lot and I was living in NY with virtually no RKBA right at the time), I voted for McCain (solid on gun rights, anything else conservative, not so much) and I voted for Mitt Romney who actually signed MA’s AWB. I believe general elections are about the better of 2 choices or as some like to refer to it, the lesser of 2 evils. In the end, I think RKBA will be cominf to a head in SCOTUS in the near future and I think Trump has (maybe accidentally) stacked the deck more in our favor than it was previously. So, I am genuinely curious where everyone is today with their support or lack of support for our current POTUS?
Mods, anyway to make this a poll? It could be “Will you vote for Trump in 2020” with yes, no or unsure.
I’ll vote against him in the primary again just like I did in 2016.
Question…did anybody really believe there was gonna be a border wall? Did anyone really believe he’d lock Hillary up? I didn’t figure he’d pass more gun control than Obama, so I was wrong about him there.
Been off the Trump Train the day I realized anime was not going to be made real, I wasn’t getting a free SR-25 and harem in the mail, and that his shit is weak.
I think that if President Trump chooses to run again, I’ll probably end up voting for him in the primary.
According to the article linked below, historically incumbent Presidents who chose to seek another term have never been beaten for the nomination by a challenger. LBJ skates on this distinction because he made his ‘if nominated, I will not serve’ speech, and President Truman quit campaigning after loosing the New Hampshire Primary.
In recent history, most sitting Presidents facing an opponent in the primary have gone on to lose the general election:
Cliff’s Notes: If the Republican Party is so fractured that their is an opposing Republican vying for the nomination against President Trump, history tells us that the Republicans will have given the election to the Democrats.
Dropping fast, indeed. Not many voters are going to care about the bump stock BS, but wimping out on the budget and immigration, and generally getting very little done, is going to weigh heavily.
Not to mention that the Dems seem to have “won” 10-20 seats in the House this year by outright and brazen voting fraud, and are likely to repeat and amplify in 2020 based on that success. Don’t be surprised if things look like Venezuela in terms of “democracy” come 2020.
I never liked him and begrudgingly voted for him to prevent HRC from winning. F@&! Trump. He’s a NY Democrat and overall dispicable person. I hope there is someone who represents my values to vote for in 2020.
Today, I spoke to two dozen people that came in my store that I know were Trump supporters. Not one of them even knew about the bump stock ban, and most really didn’t care. They also weren’t so sure the wall isn’t going to be built. To top it off, I did two firearms transfers for people I didn’t know their politics, and neither had heard of the bumpstock ban either.
That’s a really small sample, but I really wonder if folks besides us gun people are even paying attention.
If Trump doesn’t win in 2020 does that mean we finally get to burn shit down?
Also are we having this conversation already? Really? Still a couple years left to go to make a final decision before folks go starting to get all weak at the knees again here…
I’m not one of those people that thinks the dude is gonna “save America” or whatever, but damn, I love how quick the right is to embrace defeatism.
:rolleyes:
Nope, nope, and nope! And I also never for a second thought that the NFA would be dissolved or that reciprocity would happen. These things are a little more complicated than just wishing so makes it so.
What I was hoping for is that it would be quite for 4 years in regards to the 2A. Things would calm down, people would stop making mini panics at every laud fart. Anything more would be icing on the cake
Perhaps you have forgotten that during the Vietnam War, soldiers returning home were met by operatives of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS, aka Weather Underground) and spiting on these soldiers. Aligned with the SDS were the Libertarians, and they were also spiting on US troops returning from Vietnam.
I am surprised so many never have studied the early history of the Libertarian movement. Now they seem to be moving back in a left leaning direction, perhaps back to their roots.
I am sure his drones will vote for this Democrat as long as he keeps telling them he hates Mexicans. Our only hope is he goes to jail soon so we can rebuild before he signs an assault weapons ban and all his supporters run to this page to tell us how it is 4d chess.