I bought a Trijicon ACOG scope with the 6.8 caliber reticule (TA31H-68). I mounted a Trijicon Miniature Reflex site (RM08A-38) to the ACOG using a Trijicon mount (RM38). The mount wraps around the the eye piece end of the ACOG scope. It was sold to me as a package by Planet Optics for $1,850.00.
The mount that holds the reflex site to the Acog does not stay in one place. I called Trijicon twice to insure that it was mounted correctly. I also had my gunsmith try his hand at it. Despite a lengthy trial, over $200 of ammo used up, and multiple calls to Trijicon, the reflex site mounted on top of the Acog still slipped. Shooting the rifle caused the Reflex sight to slip out of place.
PLANET OPTICS response was “you bought it, you own it”. No refund, no exchange, no repair.
Trijicons response was that I could send the kit to them, and they would mount it using locktight. Yes… they offered to GLUE THE $1,850.00 SCOPE PACKAGE TOGETHER. Trijicon offered nothing else… NO REFUNDS, NO EXCHANGES, NO WARRANTY.
So now I have a Trijicon scope and reflex site kit that will not hold zero and I am stuck with it.
If anyone else has been victimized in this manner by Trijicon please contact me. We don’t have to accept this if we could gain power in numbers and deal with Trijicon as a group.
It is not the screws you are pointing to that loosen. They were tightened using a torque wrench by my gun smith. The mount band that wraps around the scope is what slips; causing the Reflex sight to be worthless. Trijicon was talking about smearing locktight on the inside of the band that wraps around the scope. Perhaps this is a temporary cheap sollution, at least until the forces dislodge it once again. But it is not a sollution that I would bet my life on; let alone pay $1850 for!
First, I know it is frustrating to have something not work.
If you notice the Trijicon ACOG’s that are sold (from the factory) with an RMR don’t use this mount (clue). They mount the upper part of the RMR mount DIRECTLY to the ACOG body.
Second, if you want to fix it, use some green loctite around the bottom of the ring. You might be shocked at what this stuff can do. If that is a no go, a strip or two of black 100mph tape inside the ring might do it as well.
Third, an RMR mounted on top of an ACOG is just about the worst place for one. I would move it off there and mount if on an offset mount on the rail or upp receiver. This is much more optimal (for many reasons).
I find the aversion to locktite amusing in light of the fact in Germany, many scopes are epoxied to the rings. I guess it’s all about commitment :blink:
In the electrical department at Home Depot find a can of 3M ScotchKote (used for waterproofing elec connections) coat the inside of the ring, wait 5 min, and tighten.
It won’t “glue” the parts together, but it will keep them from slipping. This has been SOP for mounting large scopes on hard kicking rifles for years.
Using an off center mount for the reflex site would require placing the reflex site in front or behind the ACOG scope. Then the eye releif would be an issue. Either the scope or the rapid site would be less than optimal.
Are you using the set screws on the Reflex mount? My friends setup has set screws that I don’t see it your photo, I see them in Grant’s photo though (I think).
My setup did not come with set screws. Trijicon mailed me the wrong size screws. So no, no set screws. Trijicon’s instructions for the set screws are to leave a space between the acog and the screw. These will not stop it from moving.
As far as Trijicon offering to solve my problem… the problem is in the engineering of their product. It is NOT my problem. They re-designed their scopes to eliminate this drift, but would not exchange my faulty set up for a new one. I even offered to kick in some cash.
Interesting that some of you defend Trijicon in this. Glueing my mount to the scope (for $1850) is supposed to be a sollution? If this is such a good sollution, then why did they RE-DESIGN THE SCOPE as pointed out above?
I’m not defending anything, but do have a clear picture on what needs to be done here, though I will allow it to roll some more, just to make sure you get it out of your system.
Trijicon offered to fix the issue for you. You don’t like it, and want the newest design RMR specific optic. Buying the non-RMR specific design, with an RMR mount is not Trijicon’s issue, it’s your issue. Sounds like a case of incomplete product research, caveat emptor.
Lashing out at everyone who is trying to help you, genuinely, is juvenile – at best. At worst, it’s a case of biting the hand that feeds you, and I can see why Trijicon would probably be reluctant to deal with such a person.
This is not your personal soapbox, you’ve got a few more minutes of petulant behavior, and then this thread will be closed up due to a user unwilling to waiver from the asinine.
Shivon, you might throw your weight around by closing my thread because somehow, my problem irritates you. but you don’t have a right to re-write my facts. Asinine? No research on my part? A product that was a retrofit?
Trijicon sells this as a set. It is their product. The product was re-designed by them because the version I got did not work. And finally, they did NOT offer to fix my problem. They only offered to remediate it as best as they could.
I have been looking for a solution for this problem for months; and no one at Trijicon will tell you that I was unreasonable or Asinine. That is your own definition out of your head. The only post that I have found asinine and unreasonable was your insensitive and selfish rant about my problems.
I am confused. Where was their a re-design of THIS mount (for ACOG’s that don’t have the BUILT IT mount)???
Are you saying that you want Trijicon to provide you with a NEW ACOG that has has the mounting points built into the ACOG?
As I stated, you are trying to mount an RMR in the WORST spot (yes I think it is foolish that Trijicon mounts them there). So why not cut your losses, and mount the RMR in a much BETTER spot that won’t have so much “height over bore” issues???
My buddy has the same setup you have. I thought he had the newer one, I called him and he said to see if your holes are threaded. If so use them it works for him and holds zero. after reading this thread he is gonna use the electrical coating also. Good luck.
Everytime I look at the last pic the castlenut looks bassackwards.
C4F Grant, the last recommendation I got from Jimmie at Trijicon was to get the RM 55 mount so I could use the RMR and the Acog. I did not go with this recommendation because I am concerned that I would be looking through the RMR at an angle. What is your thoughts about this? Is that something I could get used to? Of all the options put forth, this is better to me than using locktight if it will be something that I could get used to.
