LMT as in “lewis machine & tool” ???
Thats it have you used one of Lewis Machine & Tool 2 stage setup?
no, i’m trying to make arrangements for his unit as well as the KAC trigger. also, when bill alexander’s .050" over center trigger is done, he said he’d send me one.
i’ll have an adendum post to my original for all the additions. it’ll take some time, but i’ll get it all done.
i’ve got some new triggers in and will be adding an addition to this. i’ve added a timney AR10 trigger and a few others as well as select fire…
more information to follow. it’ll take me a while to finish all this up, but it should be worth it.
-michael
i’m putting the finishing touches on one trigger and will have a few more done shortly.
what happened to the sticky?
Did you edit the 1st post? On a phpBB based forum, if you edit the 1st post in a stickied thread it resets the sticky status.
i might have done just that… i think i changed an error…
if we could tack this one again, i’d be much obliged.
I sure do like my RRA 2 stage trigger. Wonder how it stacks up against some of these. I know it is much smoother than the standard trigger. I have never had a reliability issue either.
Too bad about the timney, It sure does look nice. If it were reliable I would have to buy it…
Re: the Timney, I have 2 and neither has had any FTF light strikes in thousands of rounds of LC XM193 or Privi 5.56, however if you are concerned about that issue the free or very very inexpensive AR10 replacement spring from Timney will ease your peace of mind.
agreed. the AR10 hammer spring will cure any light strikes. if you call them up and order the trigger, ask for that at the time. again, i had trouble UNTIL i made a change to the hammer spring. then all was well.
if you’re building 223 or shooting commercial 223 you will be unlikely to see any issues. the timney is a good and solid product. i hope i didn’t imply otherwise.
hope this helps.
i’m working on the two Geissele units Bill provided currently. a standard trigger and a select fire model are being run through the paces currently. the LMT is being included this time as well. jewell isn’t interested as well as KAC and jard. if anyone has one they’d allow me to borrow i’d gladly use it and return it with only the wear i apply…
i have both small and large pin lowers built and ready to go. anyhelp you guys might be able to provide would be super.
thanks,
michael
If anyone is looking for a match trigger for a Colt large pin, Midway has the Jewell on closeout for $95.
http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/brandlisting?brandid=1528
I would like to see a breakdown of each trigger to see which ones were surface hardened, which were through hardened, which were chromed, etc.
I may be wrong about this, and please let me know if I am but I thought I heard somewhere that the Rock River 2-stage NM triggers were not reliable unless modified. WOA is often mentioned as who does this service on RR triggers.
any truth to this?
Can you also do a review of the CMMG 2 stage trigger? Thanks in advance!
yes. we are working it out currently, but i believe it will be added in the update i’m performing now.
“not reliable” can take on many meanings from many sources. in my opinion, with the RRA varmint trigger and some, not all, the NM triggers they build the spring forces exerted on the hammer is a bit light. thus, there can be a situation where you have dimpled primers when using arsenal grade primers and/or hard cups.
there is a trade off in everthing. if you opt to build an inexpensive trigger at a light weight, it is natural to lighten the hammer spring. this and trigger geometry (in relationship to the hammer and sear) make the difference. there are others that do it without lightening the hammer spring but the process is more involved and thus the cost of manufacture generally goes up. no free lunch…
or at least rarely…
i’ll have to go through and come up with a list of “features” and provide it. all i know of are surface hardened. a few are through hardened, and a couple are through hardened and chromed. this is reflected in their cost and durability/reliability.
i’ll have to think on that a while and come up with a list of relevant items, but i think i can do that without issue.
I got an LMT Defender Lower with SOPMOD Stock and 2 stage trigger that I;m really liking. The takeup is smooth, once it contacts the sear, it breaks at 3 lbs. and very crisp. Absolutely no issues in 1000 rounds (which i know is not a lot.)
Wow, great post and lots of good information, thank you septic!
I’ve always had USGI trigger groups on my AR’s but last weekend I shot a buddies AR with 2 stage trigger and I must say it felt so much better. I really noticed it when I went back to using my AR.
Which trigger group do you think would be good for a plinker/home defense weapon? I like to double tap a lot and after about 10-15 mags of double taping my trigger finger is about ready to go on strike. I was thinking a good 2 stage should help this.
Also I’ve been trying to shoulder bump my AR but I don’t think the USGI trigger group is helping much. Would a good 2 stage make that easier?