OK so I know if I am traveling across multiple states I need to put my firearms in a locked container and store the ammo separately. Both items get locked in the trunk.
What if I wanted to travel with my G19 pistol, no 9mm ammo or mags, AND some .223 ammo for an AR that is already at my destination. Since the .223 ammo is not for the G19 can they be locked in the same case?
My thinking is that should be ok but it really depends on the state laws though and how they are written.
Technically, I think the ammo still has to be separate from the firearm. Any LEO searching you should know better, but I wouldn’t chance it in the very slight chance you are actually searched.
What states? Why does the ammo need to be separate from the gun?
This is for states that do not recognize your CHL. If you are going through states that do not, or have magazine bans, you need to keep both gun and ammo separate in a different container and compartment of your vehicle, and do not stop for the night.
Read up on Firearm owners protection act for transporting.
I thought I’d read the regs and not stopping for the night is a new one on me… do you have a source you can link for that? Cross-country moves would seem to be impractical (although all the states we stopped in on mine, I had CCW reciprocity.)
I’m familiar with 18 USC 926A. Not finding where the gun and ammo need to be separate.
So long as the firearms in question are legal in the state you depart from and are legal at your destination, FOPA 86 “should” protect you regardless of what state you travel through. That said, 95% of LEOs you may encounter along the way probably have no idea that FOPA is a law or what it says.
Let me clarify, from my lowly research I had to do. I’m a trucker, so I’m following the rules set for RV.
I’ve been legal as I have two lock boxes to keep stuff seperate, but my destinations are in ban states at times, then I leave. (Company policy on the other hand…)
Hell, I hope of what I’ve read and researched has me legal.
Steyr hit the spot.
From Wikipedia:
“Safe Passage” One of the law’s provisions was that persons traveling from one place to another cannot be incarcerated for a firearms offense in a state that has strict gun control laws if the traveler is just passing through (short stops for food and gas), provided that the firearms and ammunition are not immediately accessible, that the firearms are unloaded and, in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment, the firearms are located in a locked container.[11]
Under this provision, someone driving from Virginia to a competition in Vermont with a locked hard case containing an unloaded handgun and a box of ammunition in the trunk could not be prosecuted in New Jersey or New York City for illegal possession of a handgun provided that the individual did not stop in New Jersey or New York for an extended period of time.
I am from MA but have been living in PA for work. I possess a MA LTC. PA does not require licensing to possess firearms, only if you are going to carry concealed.
I drive through PA, NJ, NY, and CT - some of the worst states for gun laws. I have hard cases that I look my firearm(s) in when I travel. I also run cable locks through them. I do not travel with magazines, I have left some in MA for when I come up. Usually I leave ammo in MA so I do not have any ammo on me when I travel.
I am out of rifle ammo and was going to grab some in PA and head up to MA this weekend.
I’m in PA, which has decent gun laws, and is “shall issue” for an LTCF, so if you are not prohibited, you get one, and OC is legal without an LTCF except in Philly. This may be struck down however, due to a new law that was recently passed, but at this time in order to OC in Philly you need an LTCF. Go figure. However, you can not carry loaded firearms in your car unless you have a PA LTCF. So, as you know, keep them locked, and unloaded. Be careful through NY, and NJ. They have no clue about gun rights there.
Completely different. I travel with firearms all the time and just passed from Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado for a class. As long as the weapons are legal, and there are no restrictions in that state, you can have loaded firearms in vehicles.
IIRC rules are completely different for truckers and I believe that it has to do with DOT stuff.
You know the funny thing is that I have been stopped once in NJ (local PD) and twice in CT (state PD) and I have yet to be asked if I have any weapons on me/in the vehicle. They did not even care that I was not wearing a seat belt.
Crazy as it sounds New York essentially does not recognize fopa. What I mean is unless you follow everything to the letter gun locked up ammo locked up seperate and have a copy of the law with you- there is a possibility in New York of still being arrested for illegal possession of a handgun if stopped and it is found! This is a classic example of why I am leaving.
You can say all you want about federal law, you might as well be crossing into Canada when you drive through New York.
That’s just messed up. Those laws need to be challenged.
As for DOT. They don’t care you have a weapon as long as you follow state and local laws. This is a big reason I’m want national reciprocal law.
As a former 13 year OTR driver…who has been off the road since 07…Ive often wondered have the rules changed for OTR drivers who cross state lines? At one time…all the time I was on the road…it was my understanding after asking many people many times that at NO TIME could someone engaged in interstate commerce in a commercial vehicle have a handgun or firearm. EVERY company I knew of forbade their drivers from carrying. As for DOT…well that just depended on what state you were in, why they were stopping you, the type of gun, if was hot, cold, raining and if the officer got laid recently or not. What are the rues now?
Emperor Cuomo would smite you for such blasphemy.
Excellent, another opportunity to kill bad info. From US DOT:
https://ntl.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/120/~/possession-of-firearms-in-commercial-motor-vehicles
Possession of Firearms in Commercial Motor Vehicles
Published 02/11/2008 01:07 PM | Updated 07/28/2014 03:16 PM
Possession of Firearms in Commercial Motor VehiclesCarrying concealed weapons is a matter of state law. Your question can best be answered by the appropriate state government. Links to state government web sites are available on: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/webstate.htm
You may also want to contact the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) field office nearest you. To find the office nearest you, please consult the following web site: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/about/contact/offices/displayfieldroster.asp
To contact FMCSA Headquarters in Washington, DC, please see: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/contact-us
Fuel Truck driver for 10 years in aviation support, With regard to Private Company rules one company I worked for “Told us to get our concealed carry permits” so to be legal in whatever State had recipricosity Private Companies can set what ever rules they want for their employees as long as it’s not in violation of any Local, State or Federal Statues…