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I agree with most of the advice given here. A handgun class will be the best payoff. I took my first tier 1 instructor (EAG) handgun course 4 weeks ago and it changed a lot of my opinions. For one, it made me realize how important handgun mastery is for a civilian. All of my previous attention was leaning towards carbines and the purchases associated with them.
I would also recommend that you sell the Taurus and get a Glock. You can find a used or LNIB one for a much better price. Someone on the EE is selling 4 Glock mags for $80 shipped. CDNN was doing this as well. You can probably get a decent bladetech holster for around $60 and a double mag pouch for $20. For the price of a new gun, you can get a used one and have much of the support gear paid for.
Get a good handgun first. You can then master the basics and look at getting classes down the road.
Well it seems pretty unanimous. Thanks for the help.
Plus one on this deal. I bought one of these yesterday, and will have it shipped here this week. I’ll PM you a review on it when it arrives, if you like.
I have bought four pistols in the past from Mark; all have been a very good buy. The pistols have all been better than described and mechanically sound.
Please do, I’m currently up in the air between a M&P and a Glock.
Will do.
Wyoming is God’s country.
If I ever get Lotto rich, I’m buying a ranch up there.
+1 ![]()
I would also recommend proper training, it is good to know how to use your tools and be efficient with them.
Sell the Taurus. Buy an M&P for $460 then mail in the rebate for $50.
Try getting into one of the regional training groups for some basics or buy the Magpul HG video.
After you have some rds through the gun, search out a pistol class.
C4
Test drive them both if you can, each has great points.
How good is the Magpul DVD at actually teaching?
It gets the basics down, and introduces you to some tactics. Talks about mindset, equipment, and gives you some scenarios.
At teaching, they do a pretty good job of breaking everything down. Definitely something good to watch before you head to your training class. With a their method in mind, you can then ask questions that may pop up during the training class about why the teacher does it the way he does, compare the effectiveness of both methods, and incorporates what works and makes sense to you into how you handle your gun.
Pretty good I think.
It is always better to physically attend a class though.
C4
It isn’t a live class, but it is very in depth and very useful at least for me as a reasonable seasoned shooter.
Hard to say how it would pertain to a total novice … it might be overwhelming. But given a few viewings you will clearly gain more knowledge than the ‘average’ gun owner posses.
Good if for the drills alone … but comes with the caveat that if you ‘are doing it wrong’ it is just bad muscle memory.
I’d try to plan on making time for a class within a year … or sooner.
FWIW…
We have gotten quite a few DVD-viewers at our practice night that have zero other training. It’s a mixed bag. Some understand that all they’ve done is watch a video and work on making what they “learned” work for them. Others cling steadfastly to bits and pieces of what they learned even though other parts of their technique or system clash with what they are trying to do. Like the guy with a short handguard and his elbow jutted out horizontal to the ground but his feet placed all wrong his shoulders square to the target and his stock fully collapsed. Some of them understand when you say “pick one way” and show them how to make that way work for them, others just cling to what they think they know and proceed to spend all night fucking with a half-asses stance they “learned” from a video and in the meantime failing to grasp mechanical offset of the sighting system and never come close to, you know, actually hitting the target. ![]()
I am sure it is a mixed bag. If they sat in their commando armchair’s and never went out and practiced the drills, then they are still where they were at prior to watching the video.
C4
When and Where?
Go to your User CP and fill out your location. It will definitely aid people who want to help by seeing where you’re located.
I understand that its just a video. I’, just curious if it is worth getting before I actually take a class. I know a guy here who is a certified handgun instructor and I’m going to get his help. I’m not going to him for help with drills or the like, just basic marksmanship/grip/stance. If I’m doing this should I still get the video?