I broke down today and traded in my Gen 3 G19 (myk prefix) on an M&P 9. The G19 has been flawless for well over 1500 rds and was an accurate shooter, but I just couldn’t get the hang of staying consistent in my shooting with it. I come from a 1911 background and am far from being a pistolero, but I found myself getting sloppy too early in my shooting sessions and was having problems with the gun working it’s way out of my hands as I was shooting, no matter how hard I tried to maintain proper technique. I’m hoping the M&Ps grip angle and style will help me in correcting some of this, but I’m wondering what some of you guys think.
I think it was a bad call to trade in your G19. IMO its the best 9mm ever. There are soooo many holsters,22lr kits etc… for it.
I feel people tend to jump around on guns too much. Buy a gun, shoot it a lot. keep it… shoot it more.:suicide2:
While I am partial to Glocks, I dont really see anything wrong with you trying out the M&P. You shot 1500 rounds before doing it, so it seems you gave it a fair shake. And it’s not as if you traded it in for a High Point, the Smith is a good to go platform.
Some of us never fully mesh with the Glock’s ergonomics. I never minded the grip angle as many complain about and I went back and forth between Glocks and 1911s since 1991. My biggest dislike was that I never felt that I shot the platform as consistently as some other platforms. This applied mostly to the G26/27 and G19/23 as I never had any issues with my G20 or G35. The G35 felt a bit awkward but it was very accurate and consistent for me.
Several years ago I got rid of all of my Glocks. I immediately had separation anxiety and ran out and bought another G23. I still take it to the range several times a year to see if we can make it work together. I even took it to a training class recently. Worked great for that course although it was all close range work. My 25 yard work with the Glock still lacks the consistency that I get out of my 1911s, H&Ks and M&Ps. No reason to fight it forever. Some platforms just work better for each of us than others. I am trying to standardize with all M&Ps as they seem to offer the most features that work for me.
I hope the M&P works well for you.
I love my M&P’s, I have 5 of them now with plans for more. I also own 1911’s and feel almost guilty for preferring to shoot my M&P’s more. I carry a few of my 1911’s on occassion, but my primary ccw has been my M&P40c. I just picked up another M&P9c, planning to carry it more, it has night sights and some pretty aggressive grip stipeling. I’ll get some intensive training with this one for a while and get myself comfy with it but know I have tried a few glocks and still prefer my M&P’s. Heck I just got a LGS fix friday after work, most of the handguns were packed up and headed to a gun show but there were still quite a few Glocks in the case, so I decide to fondle a few and no matter what I tried, just did not feel remotely comfy with them in hand. I have big hands, the compact frame felt too small and the full size frame felt too big and bulky… shoot the heck out of that M&P and I’m sure you’ll find yourself a keeper.
Congratulations. Once an open minded glock owner is introduced to the better balanced and better ergonomics of the M&P, he/she usually either trade for the M&P or add one to their collection.
So one is to…
- Choose based on accessory availability
And - Shoot and keep the first handgun purchased without question
Come on :blink:
OP, good job getting into something you find more appealing. If its comfortable for you and your preferences , you’re more apt to shoot it more and establish some proficiency.
I feel a little better about having made this trade in now after hearing what you guys are saying. While I was confident that I needed to give the M&P a try, there’s a bit of paranoia about it simply because the Glock is such a reliable and proven pistol. It wasn’t easy for me to make this switch and I’ve debated on it for awhile. The final straw for me was when out shooting the other day with a friend he had me try out his new to him 1911. It is built on a WWII Remington Rand. I had already put several hundred rounds downrange with the Glock and was not happy with my performance and the issues with the grip I was having when he comes over and says ‘try this’. I put one mag downrange and it was better than the several hundred i’d shot with the Glock with none of the issues I’d had. I said to myself that now was not the time to get back into the custom 1911 game, but a polymer gun with 1911-esque ergos might be in order.
The magic in a 1911 is in the trigger. The stock M&P does not have that trigger. I have also noticed the G17 fits my hand differently than the G19.
edit: Make sure and take all the backstraps to the range when you shoot the M&P. I found the small and medium were more comfortable but the large worked better for me despite it being the least comfortable.
Congrats!!
I went the other way I suppose. I picked up a M&P9c in trade for one of my Glocks and don’t like it all that much. I even put a Apex DCAEK/Ram kit in it and still don’t care for it. Something about the trigger and I aren’t bonding. So I’ll most likely trade it for a G26.
Good luck…
Not really, my friend.
The gen 2/3 Glock 19 is a legendary firearm and certainly one of the better 9mm’s but it’s not the end all; hence the price tag. For $499, yes the G19 has certainly proven to be one of the best deals on the market but times are changing. Glocks no longer have their legendary reliability, at least for the time being. It’s not as if the OP traded his Glock for a Hi-Point. What makes the Glock better than the M&P, realistically? Is it because you own one? HK, old Sig, and now probably Walther are all made to a higher standard than a Glock.
I prefer Glock over M&P but I don’t believe for a second that the Glock is somehow better. Shit, they are both having a hard time with QC and bad parts it seems like.
Largely the same gun, different ergos. That’s my take on it.
If you haven’t already, look at Apex for trigger stuff. I shot a long slide M&P that had an Apex duty enhancement kit and it was a vast improvement over the stock trigger. It’ll never be a 1911 trigger, but no one should expect Glock, M&P, HK, etc to come close.
No worries here. I know that there’s nothing like a 1911 trigger and don’t expect one. There’s a guy local to me that does a fantastic trigger job on both Glocks and M&Ps. I was in his shop last year and a competitive shooter I was talking to in there let me feel the trigger on hers that he did. It was fantastic. I believe it’s the ergos that are throwing me off, not the trigger. Same competitive shooter started on 1911s, then went to Glocks, then back to 1911s, then to the M&P. She said the M&P is the best of both worlds for her.
I think it was a bad call to trade in your G19. IMO its the best 9mm ever.
I guess he should have checked with you first…
My one cent (I lost a cent because of the economy): I had Glocks, got rid of them, got M&Ps, shot them OK, really liked the ergo’s, liked Glock better, got rid of M&Ps, went back to Glock. It shoots better for me. I liked the M&P and have nothing bad to say about it. I don’t shoot anything as well as a 1911, though. You went with what works best for you, you made a wise decision.
I don’t know if it works best yet, but it felt better when held. I needed to do something as performance and comfort with the weapon were not improving. Hopefully I’ll be able to get out with it next weekend and get some rounds downrange.
I have a G17 and wanted another 9mm handgun so that my other half and I could both shoot the same caliber at the same time. We rented a bunch of guns one day. We took my G17 and shot it along side a G19 and an M&P 9. We both fell in love with the G19. The M&P 9 didn’t feel that good in my hands or hers, and it seemed to jump around in my hands. Both are heavily used range guns, but the G19 felt better, hands down. Next time we rented, we both came to the same conclusion. G19. It’s a matter of Different Stokes for Different Folks, or as is more common in the forums. YMMV.
Since those range trips I have added a second G17 to my Glocks. The G19 is still on the must have list. I’ve written the M&P off, both in 9mm and .40.
A Glock 19 gen3 is an excellent gun. But if it doesn’t work for you, then you made the right choice to switch to a platform that does.
At the end of the day, if you can’t effectively put rounds on target, then it doesn’t matter much how the gun performs for me or anyone else.
This was a regular problem I had with the G19. I’m glad that the G19 works well for you and the missus. It is a good gun in the right hands, but it wasn’t right for me or I wasn’t right for it:sad:
Exactly. If you can rent before you shoot, I doubt there is anyone who would not recommend that you shoot before you buy. I really wanted an M&P 9 and was almost ready to order one, then I got the chance to shoot one, and that was the end of that. Would I shoot one again? Absolutely. Just not right for us to buy.