I am all but sure a TR24G is my next purchase. With that being said, I am wondering how this optic performs @ 100 yards and out. Any experienced opinions? Thanks
It performs very well at 100, and while it may not be the hottest ticket for benchresting tiny groups at long range, it works very well even out to 300 yards, within the limitations of 4x max power and a large-ish triangle reticle. Actually, compared to 1x RDS, it really shines in the 100-300 range. That’s where you see the benefit of the variable power.
I am amazed at what I can do with the TR24R. I was able to hit 8" steel plates with ease all the way out to 250 yards with mine 2 weeks ago. I highly recommend it.
See thread below:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=734877#post734877
Was popping Ground Hogs at 75-100 left and right last weekend with the TR24R on an FAL. Out shot a buddy with a .22-250 custom rifle. He was, needless to say… a little pissed.
Thanks fellars! What mount are y’all usin?
I like my GG&G FLT mount. Supposedly one of the lightest mounts available. Plus you’ll be supporting a “boycotted” state of Arizona.
The key to precision shooting with the TR24 (triangle reticle models) is to ensure that the brightness coming from the fiber optic cable is optimally adjusted. This involves closing the fiber optic shutter on top of the scope until the reticle becomes sharp. In a well lit environment, the reticle glows too much for the eye to accurately discern precisely where the edges of the triangle are (or, more importantly, where the very tip is). Even a slight halo from this glow will confound accuracy, and it only takes a tiny error to throw your shot off an inch or so. I had trouble shooting tight groups until I figured this out. Went from shooting 3-4 inch groups at 100 yards to sub 2 inch groups. Of course, for minute-of-man accuracy, it doesn’t really matter if your shot is 1-2 inches off the center of mass. Furthermore, a brighter, glowing reticle is a good thing for CQC action. So there’s a kind of trade off involved I guess.
I liked the TR24G so much that I just bought the TR24-3G to try the German #4 reticle. It seems to me that this scope has the opposite problem–it’s better for long distance precision, but may not be as good for CQC. I’ve encountered differing opinions on this and want to test it out for myself. If I find I don’t lose much for CQC target acquisition speed, then I may switch to the #4 reticle. I’m going to compare them both at short and long range.
I really liked my TR24 at 100~250 yards. I didn’t spend much time at 300. I found it quick to use and plenty accurate for what I expected to need from it. I didn’t have issues with a lack of the BDC and the triangle was easy to adjust to.
The comment above about adjusting the brightness as needed is spot on.
Mine was in a LaRue mount.
The reason I sold it was that I was having trouble using it both eyes open at close in stuff. I really wanted it to work like a RDS as well, and while it appears to work well for many, I just couldn’t get it to work for me. Blurry recital and a trouble focusing. ![]()
Be sure to post your findings
TR24G in LT-104 here.
The triangle is close enough to the TA31F’s that I’m more used to that I’m very confident making hits within 250 on the reticle - I need to shoot it past 400 to see how I like that.
Yes, please post your results as I am on the fence about which model to purchase.
I have been shooting mine for just over a year now, and I still love mine (TR24G). It needs to be understood that this is NOT a “precision rifle scope”, and if your main concern is shooting for groups you should look elsewhere. It is however a fantastic combat optic for engagements from 0 out to 300 yards.
For me, it really shines at CQB distance drills (0-10yards), as the big green triangle is super fast to pick up during rapid/multi-round shooting. I am as fast, or faster with the TR24G as I am with my Eotech XPS2-0.
I know there is some concern with shooting variable power scopes from unconventional shooting positions such as: SBU prone, roll-over prone, etc. in-that it is difficult to get a proper cheek-weld/sight picture. It can indeed be challenging to pick-up the triangle in 4x due to the need for a proper cheek-weld/eye-relief, but when set to 1x there is no issue at all. It works just as good for me as any reddot optic I also run.
It also works equally as-well at 50-200 yards. I zero mine with the very tip of the triangle @ 100yards.
At 300yards I hold approximately 12" over my desired point of impact. The bottom of the triangle seems to work as a point of aim/point of impact reference for me @ 300yards.
I was just out at a local National Guard range yesterday shooting from 15-300 yards. I really couldn’t ask for a better over-all compromise for that entire range.
At the typical $680-$720 asking price on these (if you can find one!), I feel they are a complete bargain when compared to the other low power vari-power scopes out there on the market.
I have mine mounted in a LaRue LT-135 (1.93" height) mount, and I love it. I have no issues getting a proper cheek-weld on 4x with the higher mount, and at 1x it gives me a more “heads-up” filed of view which works out great for me during CQB stuff. Steve Fisher originally turned me onto this optic/mount combo and it works extremely well.
VMI-MO and I were ringing steel easy with it out to 100 with my FAL last weekend.
Any update on these. Has anyone done a comparison between the green and red triangles. I am having trouble trying to decide on red or green triangle. If i do “go green” which reticle triangle or #4 German.:help:
I’ve owned 4 of these scopes–a red triangle (TR24R), a green triangle (TR24G), a green #4 (TR24-3G), and an amber #4 (TR24-3). They are all great scopes; I’m a big fan of the glass on these. Regarding the colors, I don’t think you can really go wrong with any of them as they all are adequately effective. In a brightly lit environment, I find the red to be superior. But in darker environments, the green and amber hold the edge–they seem to hold their glow a little better in the dark. I would say that these differences are very minor. In perusing the boards, green seems to be the most popular color, but I’m not sure how well that reflects functional superiority over novelty. Many people claim that the amber “washes out” more than the other colors but I don’t agree with this. The amber is fantastic.
Reticle choice here is far more important than color choice, and which is better all depends on what you intend to use the scope for. I love the design of the German #4 reticle on these–it’s a great general purpose reticle for me. I find that with this scope, I primarily use the reticle itself (as opposed to the glowing dot) for aiming. The dot is very small and while it can be employed like an RDS in bright conditions, the same is not true in dimmer conditions. I’m not saying you can’t see the dot in dimmer conditions, only that it wouldn’t be as effective as a RDS optic a la Eotech, Aimpoints, etc. The dot is very important, however, as it allows you to find the crosshair center when the reticle is difficult to see (when aiming at dark objects or aiming in dim conditions). In contrast, with the triangle reticle, one can truly rely on the fiber optic system for quick target acquisition–that is, you can effectively employ it as an RDS. The larger surface area of the triangle (versus the small dot) allows for more efficient light delivery to the eye, even in dimmer conditions so you can bring up the rifle, put color on target and shoot. Again, you can do this with the #4 outside in the light…just not inside or wherever it is too dim.
The #4 makes for a fantastic hunting scope, but I would give the edge to the triangle for 3-gun, CQB, etc (fast target acquisition).
After zeroed, I fired a 10 round shot group that I could cover up with a quarter at 100 yards.
I think I am leading toward the triangle . Now to choose a color. I am used to red being that all I ever use is aimpoints and myTA31ECOS reticle is red. Does the grreen wash out in the woods. Is their any advantage in either color red or green? Thanks
If you do an advanced search for reticle color under the Optics forum, you’ll get enough threads to read until you’re bug eyed. You’ll find answers to questions about reticle color that you didn’t even know you needed to ask. I found https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=25016&highlight=reticle+color to be particularly useful.
I have never had an issue with the green triangle washing out in wooded areas. It’s a completely foreign green to anything I have seen in nature. The big advantage of the green in my opinion is that the green tritium is brighter in low light than any of the other available colors.
Did you use the tip, and did you have to shield the fiber optic to make the triangle dimmer?