Tough Arizona sheriff object of protestors

Today’s news has a story about the Arizona sheriff noted for pink inmate clothes and tent camps. 10,000 people marched in protest against this guy, whose fault was enforcing the law. My guess is that putting this gig together required money and talent so where did they come from?

About brutality charges in jails, either the inmates control things or else the staff members do. When inmates rape, disembowel each other, and assault staff, it ain’t called brutality. Most brutality charges against staff occur during take downs or when force is used in self-defense. Brutality charges are often written in context of civil rights violations, and these require investigation and tons of paper.

One other thing: an inmate who can write a good letter will eventually get a staff person fired. Why? Because it’s easier for the for the folks in the Head Shed to get rid of the employee than continuously deal with the inmate.

Williejc

Are you trying to make a point or just rambling?

Joe Arpaio is a racist, an asshole, and is of the simpleton mind that believes the justice system should be serving physical and mental torture to those who are incarcerated rather than rehabilitating them. He has had thousands of lawsuits filed against him for civil rights violations and has displayed tactics time after time characteristic of concentration camp guards. He is a tyrant and should be relieved of his command. He puts a smear on law enforcement nationwide.

He’s the very definition of “I’m going to kick your ass and get away with it.”. If anyone should be in prison, it’s his ass.

Read up on him. He’s not a law and order type, that is a front. He thinks he runs the county and the laws don’t apply to him and his deputies.

Here’s some video of one of them stealing documents from a defense attorney:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=682_1257444077&c=1

A couple articles:
http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/30/showdown-in-marikafka-county
http://reason.com/blog/2007/10/19/sheriff-joe-arpaio-wants-to-kn

Joe Arpaio needs to eat a bit less and stop being a media whore. He’s the Oscar Goodman of sheriffs.

And no I don’t have a problem with inmates living in tents or wearing pink. But I have a problem when a government official tries to use his or her office for fame.

Sorry I touched a nerve. Sounds like somebody or his relative ate one of those green baloney sandwiches at one time or another. If I had it to over, I would have been a social worker and probably I would see things differently now. However, my background in corrections has skewed my world view. I have no sympathy for the incarcerated.

You should never be in a position of authority within this country’s justice system.

So every punishment given is fair and just? Because these guys sure did get what they deserved :rolleyes: Our justice system is all kinds of f$%ked up. When corporations play a roll in it’s just a matter of time until it happens, hell wackenhut is the only example needed for why private prisons are a bad. It’s become an industry and many county’s wouldn’t exist if sentences where fair & just.

Well since none of you live in Arizona, allow me to chime in. First off he is an elected official. The people of the county have elected him time and time again. The reason is real simple. He does his best to protect the citizens of Maricopa county.

I would love to know from any one of you exactly why you think he is a racist? Because he cracks down on the illegals in our city and county who smuggle people and drugs? Or because he doesn’t feel that criminals should be handled with kid gloves and given every benefit in the world?

I have actually met with and talked to the guy and maybe some of you should do the same first before you criticize him.

Being elected does not make you right (Bush, Obama, etc) and I don’t have to speak to someone personally to find out whether or not they discriminate against Hispanics and treat prisoners like Jews in concentration camps.

Hispanic is not a race.

Enforcing immigration laws is discrimination?

Bullshit.

Sympathy is a weakness. Empathy is a virtue.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Targeting illegals is not discrimination. They are criminals.

So he’s not a media whore? And DHS didn’t bitch slap him and he’s not known for using his office to intimidate others?

So does this mean you all want more of those sanctuary cities, like San Fransico, where they like the smell of their own farts? Sheriff Joe is doing something that the rest of the nation is either having a hard time doing, or just letting it go and "going with the times. The county has the highest kidnapping rate in the country! That’s marking Phoenix as the Mexico City of the U.S.

And Phoenix ain’t far from the boarder and the bloody war across it.

You have no idea what the words sympathy and empathy mean.

Targeting people because of what they look like it discrimination. He was going after people that ‘looked’ like illegals.

What does an illegal look like?

Also, illegal immigrants in this country work a hell of a lot harder than most Americans do and legal immigrants know a hell of a lot more about this country than most natural Americans do.

Also, illegal immigrants in this country work a hell of a lot harder than most Americans do and legal immigrants know a hell of a lot more about this country than most natural Americans do.

It is clear you do not live somewhere that has a problem with illegal immigrants.

My farts smell awesome, like cinnamon rolls on a sunday morning with a hint of apple.

There’s enforcing the law, and than there’s totalitarianism (I’m being a dram queen using the word totalitarianism but it’s a bad ass sounding word)

LE should enforce the law, but at the same time you need to respect privacy of the individual. Innocent until proven guilty, it really does mean, you’re innocent UNTIL proven otherwise by the justice system.

I don’t like the illegals one bit, I’ve been stabbed by one :stuck_out_tongue: ( Luckily he wasn’t very proficient )

But you don’t end illegal immigration by going after the immigrants, you end it by going after the people who hire them, take down companies like Tyson and others and you’d see a huge drop in immigration.

No fucking doubt.

Jay

Horseshit. They are here already. The prosper more from doing nothing in Las Vegas than doing nothing in Juarez. They aren’t going anywhere.

Jay

How would they prosper with out welfare and jobs? Mexico would look great. And this goes for all immigrants who enter illegally, even those from european countries, hell even Canada. If you hire an illegal to cut your grass you should get a ticket, if he washes your car… ticket time. You can round up all the illegals you want and send them over the border, but guess what… They hop right back over! :smiley:

And a dumb ass fence isn’t going to do anything, it’s good for those getting the contracts to build it, but for security, it’s crap. They’ll dig tunnels if needed. Hell you could mine the whole damn border and they would find a way over, but if prosperity doesn’t exist over that border they have no reason to come to begin with.

Enforce the employment laws and fix immigration.