Toronto police seize 400 guns in safety push (from registered owners!)

[TMMT]

Toronto police seize 400 guns in safety push

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/22/guns-toronto-seized-police523.html

[b]Toronto police have seized almost 400 firearms from registered owners in a six-month push aimed at reducing the number of guns on the city’s streets.

In March, officers began soliciting registered firearm owners across the city as part of what they call the Safe City Project. Many of those who had to surrender their firearms had either let their registrations lapse, or had stashed their guns improperly under beds or in closets.[/b]

The Canadian Firearms Registry stipulates guns must be stored in a secure place.

No charges were laid in the push, police said Tuesday.

Targeting people who had registered their guns is a preventative measure, said Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair.

“Legal handgun owners are not dangerous individuals,” Blair told reporters at a Tuesday news conference. “But we know from experience that their firearms can become extremely dangerous when they get into the hands of criminals. And so we have undertaken a number of initiatives to reduce the availability of those handguns.”

Police estimate there are still 4,000 guns in Ontario that are being improperly stored.

However, a critic says, the push to target registered gun owners is not getting at the root of the problem.

“The system doesn’t work. It’s broken. It doesn’t target the right people,” Greg Farrant, a spokesman for the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters, told CBC News. People who are barred from owning weapons are the ones who should be registered and tracked, he said.

There are about 2.3 million registered guns in Ontario.

[Abraxas]

Not surprised. That is a country that is more lost than we are. Problem is, so many from here see them down down their path and want us to follow.

[bkb0000]

so they targeted and invaded the homes of the law-abiding registered gun owners in an effort to confiscate their guns.

did the invade the homes of felons?

[R_Tdrvr]

Solid proof that registration DOES lead to confiscation.

[Irish]

@R_Tdrvr

Solid proof that registration DOES lead to confiscation.

Look at Britian, Australia, etc. It was proven a long time ago.

[LockenLoad]

look at KATRINA, riding around and confiscating people’s guns with no receipts, that was pretty much a SHTF scenario first thing they do is disarm the people, I mean it’s not like you might need it to protect yourself:rolleyes:

[thedog]

Stupid Canadian politicians!!! They sound like Kalifornian politicos!!! We feel for you, Canadian brothers and sisters! Wish we could just fix it all overnight…

                dog

[DragonDoc]

@TMMT

Toronto police seize 400 guns in safety push

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/22/guns-toronto-seized-police523.html

[b]Toronto police have seized almost 400 firearms from registered owners in a six-month push aimed at reducing the number of guns on the city’s streets.

In March, officers began soliciting registered firearm owners across the city as part of what they call the Safe City Project. Many of those who had to surrender their firearms had either let their registrations lapse, or had stashed their guns improperly under beds or in closets.[/b]

The Canadian Firearms Registry stipulates guns must be stored in a secure place.

No charges were laid in the push, police said Tuesday.

Targeting people who had registered their guns is a preventative measure, said Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair.

“Legal handgun owners are not dangerous individuals,” Blair told reporters at a Tuesday news conference. “But we know from experience that their firearms can become extremely dangerous when they get into the hands of criminals. And so we have undertaken a number of initiatives to reduce the availability of those handguns.”

Police estimate there are still 4,000 guns in Ontario that are being improperly stored.

However, a critic says, the push to target registered gun owners is not getting at the root of the problem.

“The system doesn’t work. It’s broken. It doesn’t target the right people,” Greg Farrant, a spokesman for the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters, told CBC News. People who are barred from owning weapons are the ones who should be registered and tracked, he said.

There are about 2.3 million registered guns in Ontario.

It won’t be long before the entire law abiding populace is disarmed. Next the criminals and the government will have a field day clubbing the defenseless like baby seals. These are always disguised as policies that are for the good of the many.

[Shadow1198]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?.. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation… We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
— Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

[thedog]

@Shadow1198

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?.. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation… We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
— Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

POST THIS IN SCHOOLS!!! Yeah, right! I wish. Schools, workplaces etc. Don’t I wish. But the sheep would still probably just stay sheep…
Powerful quote. Thanks for posting that. It should be a sticky, all by itself.

                               DOG

[Honu]

Wife is Canadian even she shaked her head and could not believe it !!!

she is from Vancouver a very nice pretty place we had talked about moving their to be closer to her family ?

but the gun laws made me not want to go and articles like this really cement the idea that I might not want to go their

I love how in many of these roundups they seem to go for the law abiding citizens rather than the criminals !!!

like here in AZ with Sheriff Joe rounding up illegals and people complain but round up honest citizens and take their guns I bet they would be jumping for joy !!!

I really do fear for what my young children are going to grow up in ???

[variablebinary]

@R_Tdrvr

Solid proof that registration DOES lead to confiscation.

May as well lump the USA in that category now, because we have de facto registration here already

[ThirdWatcher]

@bkb0000

…Did they invade the homes of felons?

Felons have rights.

[blhar15]

Our fore fathers definitely got it right!

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson

A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
George Washington

[Spiffums]

@TMMT

Toronto police seize 400 guns in safety push

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/22/guns-toronto-seized-police523.html

[b]Toronto police have seized almost 400 firearms from registered owners in a six-month push aimed at reducing the number of guns on the city’s streets.

In March, officers began soliciting registered firearm owners across the city as part of what they call the Safe City Project. Many of those who had to surrender their firearms had either let their registrations lapse, or had stashed their guns improperly under beds or in closets.[/b]

The Canadian Firearms Registry stipulates guns must be stored in a secure place.

No charges were laid in the push, police said Tuesday.

Targeting people who had registered their guns is a preventative measure, said Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair.

“Legal handgun owners are not dangerous individuals,” Blair told reporters at a Tuesday news conference. “But we know from experience that their firearms can become extremely dangerous when they get into the hands of criminals. And so we have undertaken a number of initiatives to reduce the availability of those handguns.”

Police estimate there are still 4,000 guns in Ontario that are being improperly stored.

However, a critic says, the push to target registered gun owners is not getting at the root of the problem.

“The system doesn’t work. It’s broken. It doesn’t target the right people,” Greg Farrant, a spokesman for the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters, told CBC News. People who are barred from owning weapons are the ones who should be registered and tracked, he said.

There are about 2.3 million registered guns in Ontario.

firearms can become extremely dangerous when they get into the hands of criminals. And so we have undertaken a number of initiatives to reduce the availability of those handguns."

Why not reduce the availability of criminals…seems like that would be a win for the common good.

[The_War_Wagon]

Why not reduce the availability of criminals…seems like that would be a win for the common good.

How DARE you attempt to propose common sense to the fair land of Canadia?!?! :rolleyes:

Suddenly, this comes to mind…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSYipouABI

[MPi-KMS-72]

In a way it is kind of ironic the course they are taking since Canada was populated in a large degree by Loyalists who fled the US during and after the Revolutionary War.

"(1776) New Hampshire adopts the first state constitution, Thomas Paine publishes Common Sense, General Howe abandons Boston, the Continental Congress recommends disarming Loyalists and raids on British ships, Louis XIV provides arms to the Americans, North Carolina calls for independence from Britain, France and Spain supply aid to American revolutionaries , Continental Congress authorizes each of the 13 colonies to form provincial governments. "

"Congress was also concerned with the next move, would it be to Philadelphia and what about the Loyalists in their midst? Britain had already attempted to use Loyalists as a military force against the rebels at Moore’s Creek. In a nation where approximately one third of the nation was Loyalists they represented a serious threat, especially in a military role.

With this vulnerability in mind, on March 19th, the Congress recommended a policy of disarming all Loyalists. "

“Following the death of his famous father, Sir William Johnson on July 11, 1774, Sir John Johnson inherited his estates on the Mohawk River. At the outbreak of the American Revolution, Sir John Johnson lived in his own estate surrounded by loyal German Palatine settlers and newly arrived Scots Highlanders, chiefly of the Clan MacDonnell. With 4,000 troops of from New England, Philip Schuyler of Albany set out to disarm Loyalists along the Mohawk Valley and to exact assurances of neutrality from Johnson. Hostages were taken from among the Palatine Germans and the Highlanders and sent to Connecticut.”

[Ned_Christiansen]

Post it in schools?

Hell, post it in stores, restaurants, hospitals, and on every 'fridge in the…

…naw… never mind… it couldn’t happen here. That’s other people in a different time.

[dookie1481]

@Ned_Christiansen

Post it in schools?

Hell, post it in stores, restaurants, hospitals, and on every 'fridge in the…

…naw… never mind… it couldn’t happen here. That’s other people in a different time.

It never ceases to amaze me how people think it could never happen HERE. Unfortunately our society has a black hole where our knowledge of history should be.

Jay

[Irish]

JPFO made a great video about gun registration and confiscation titled Innocents Betrayed. I highly recommend checking out http://www.innocentsbetrayed.com/ it’s worth the money! Watch it and pass it along to family & friends.