WTF?
General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the U.S. military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke with Pastor Terry Jones by phone on Wednesday and asked him to withdraw his support for a film whose portrayal of the Prophet Mohammad has sparked violent protests - including one that ended with the death of America’s envoy to Libya.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/us-usa-libya-pastor-military-idUSBRE88B1C320120912
Who didn’t see that one coming?
Don’t forget who the Commander In Chief is.
Obama at the DNC last week.
GENERAL MOTORS is alive.
OBL is dead. How do you think he feels.
And this political hack is calling a preacher who may be fucked up but within his rights.
The Hypocracy of it all. This admin is incapable of excepting the responsibility of its actions. It’s always someone else’s fault.
DW
“Winning Hearts & Minds” sure you bet NOT, while our country is imploding & the hypocracy/double standards/imperialistic world domination is being exposed.
We are in DEEP DooDoo & not getting any traction.
We get to go along for the ride regardless…
EXTRACT !
I call BS. There is no way that the Joint Chief’s Chairman is going to call an American and tell him that. A political operative maybe. If he did make the call, I think he ought to be court martialed for failing to live up to us oath of protecting the US Constitution.
We are so pathetic. What bothers me is not what our pathetic response has been, but that so much of our citizenry will support this crap.
Isn’t it the official policy of the U.S to make the world safe for Islam?
I really hope that a General calling a U.S citizen and requesting that he not take part in is rights is just a misinformed journalist writing on hearsay.
Hearsay from the general’s spokesman, perhaps.
“In the brief call, Gen. Dempsey expressed his concerns over the nature of the film, the tensions it will inflame and the violence it will cause,” Dempsey’s spokesman, Colonel Dave Lapan, told Reuters. “He asked Mr. Jones to consider withdrawing his support for the film.”
I’m surprised the pastor is not in Gitmo getting wet on a board.
For those who think it’s bullshit or some kind of conspiracy theory why don’t you ponder this. Did it ever occur to you that the general was concerned about the troops are deployed in these fucking countries and possibly bear the repercussions to follow? I was in Afghanistan earlier this year when the Koran burning happened and I was there when the staff sergeant flipped out and murdered a bunchfew of Afghans and trust me it wasn’t fun. Our Compound was attacked 3 different times because of that. Maybe you guys should take that into consideration when you’re criticizing him for what he said.
“Requesting” is not an infringement of that citizen’s rights. That citizen can always say “fuck off.” If he’s thrown in jail, then his rights are being infringed upon.
IG - I was there when that pastor in Florida decided it was a great idea to burn a koran live on tv and the internet… Twice. Yeah, we felt the repercussions of that in Afghanistan too. 
This is serious stuff. My wife and I have been considering pulling one of the 401s pre retirement date. Sat with the accountants and then my broker.
Both tried hard to take us out of it. As I was leaving both offices. The accountant and the broker both told me they are buying gold and silver as fast as they can.
Went to the gold silver store and could not believe the amount of people in and out of there in the short time I was there. Being a retired po from here I was amazed at WHO was there as well.
Come Monday I’ll be there picking up my order. Worst case it’s post tax money now so if everything turns out ok my two kids will get nice size piles of gold and silver when I croak.
DW
Dirk
A military SSG flipping out and shooting local civilians isn’t even close to the same thing as a US private citizen creating a video which is protected under the Constitution. Not sure how you are making the moral connection there.
Having the top military person in the country call up a private citizen and ask they not do something is…:rolleyes: What’s the next step?
My opinion is officers at that level are political, and you didn’t see most of this shit before Obama got there including this same dude telling retired officers to not bad mouth Obama. GTFO! The military is employed by the citizens of this country to protect our rights not have the military telling us to tone things down. I thought part of the allure of serving and “protecting the country” included the BOR but I guess our rights should be dependent on what some general thinks.
Gen Dempsey did nothing to infringe on the man’s rights.
And I for one agree with what Dempsey did. I have a lot of friends still in Afghanistan… Crap like this is just more recruiting tools for the Taliban and can cause even non Taliban to lash out at Americans still there.
That’s why people signed up or at least I did. Wasn’t to protect only PC interpretations of our rights. All of them. You don’t have to agree with how people use their rights but you don’t get selectively say Im serving to protect such and such only.
A chairman of the JCOS calling up private citizens to ask they not do something is :rolleyes:
So wait, you think that if someone asks you not to do something that they’re making a law that punishes you for doing that action? Your reading of the constitution needs a little work.
And for the record, I took the oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, just like I’m presuming you did. But you’re jumping at the gun here, seeing enemies where there aren’t any. The CJCS has no authority to order non-dod civilians to do anything. He didn’t even try, he ASKED. Sounds more like you’re trying to infringe upon his freedom if speech.
If you don’t like the repercussions of a U.S. citizen exercising their rights, then get out of the military! If the U.S. managed their expeditionary wars in a better fashion, it wouldn’t be an issue. Fact is, we suck at it.
I served my time and I wouldn’t do it again, not with what I now know about how the U.S. military is used. The civilian “leadership” in this country is in a full scale breach of trust with our brave men and women. I fully empathize with your current plight, but I hope someday you’ll see that these crises are not the result of a single decision by a single man exercising his rights, but endemic to our country as a whole.
FWIW, the guy who produced this pile of shit is a complete scumbag. I hope he rots in hell for what he’s done. However, those of us who swore an oath don’t get to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution to uphold. 
If he identified himself as a private citizen, then I’d agree with you. If he identified himself as the CJCS, then he abused his title for a non-military purpose. It would be far different if he were retired, but a sitting General Grade officer needs to leave civilian issues of protected rights to civilians.
If the repercussions are people dying that don’t have to die, you’re damn right I don’t like those repercussions. And I’d do exactly what the CJCS did, ask that person not to do it. But I would not make it illegal for him to express himself nor would I take action against him besides ASKING him to reconsider.