Looking for someone who’s making a quality Threepersons holster, preferably in the older Don Hume style, for my 4" K frame Smiths. I know El Paso saddlery makes a Threepersons but I prefer the retention strap setup of the older Humes.
Thoughts?
You can get the traditional strap on an El Paso Threepersons.
El Paso Saddlery does a good job but Barranti is worth the wait
El Paso- and Kirkpatrick makes/made a sevicable Three Persons.
Asking purely for education:
What is the point of a holster that exposed the trigger on a double action revolver?
^^ To have your finger on, or near the trigger with the draw. It was a different time; fewer lawyers, fewer dumbasses- I guess.
This holster on a single action autoloader, cocked and locked was “interesting” too.
Gotcha, thank you.
I did some research on the holster, and found this thread (sorry to link to another forum, but great info and pics)
http://smith-wessonforum.com/gun-leather-carry-gear/100128-s-ws-tom-three-persons-holster.html
What Gaijin said.
It’s interesting to note that Bill Jordan, in his book No Second Place Winner, considered any holster not so designed to be complete junk and unfit for duty use.
He knew a thing or two about gunfighting
He also stated that the retention strap should only used when traversing rough terrain. Otherwise, the only retention would be the fit of the leather (which is more than enough in a well made holster).
Yep
The guy knew a thing or two.
I’ve trying to find a 60-80s Philly PD holster for a pencil barrel K frame 38spl. The holster had an angled spring loaded metal tab that was used as retention. To draw the gun the officer would put his finger inside the trigger guard, pus the tab and pull the gun… insuring that the finger is always on the trigger!
And we have learned a thing or two more since Bill Jordan’s time.
We sure have
[video=youtube_share;YzuyDjLTOIQ]https://youtu.be/YzuyDjLTOIQ?t=178[/video]
I believe that is know as the Audley Safety Holster- there is a company called Vintage Gunleather that makes a copy. I am unaffiliated with them and cannot comment on its (the copy’s) quality.
There’s - what I’ll call - a persistent rumor that Bill Jordan left the USBP and went to work for the NRA, focusing on firearm safety, after he negligently shot a fellow USBP officer.
(He was also fond of aiming for the belt buckle, which I suspect nobody worth their salt would recommend today, even acknowledging that men in Jordan’s day wore the waist of their trousers much higher than we do, today.)
Bill Jordan gave an interview to Skeeter Skelton in 1969 (http://darkcanyon.net/BillJordan_TopGun.htm) and described his holster. Its not a Threepersons design - see the linked thread above for an image from the original 1931 S.D Meyers advertising for a variety of TT holsters. They are not like the “River” holster. (http://smith-wessonforum.com/gun-leather-carry-gear/100128-s-ws-tom-three-persons-holster.html, POST #17)
"Jordan holsters are known to uniformed law enforcement officers throughout the United States as the most advanced design available to suspend a DA revolver from a Sam Browne belt. Rigidly reinforced in the belt loop area by an enclosed metal strap, the Jordan rig is rigid and unmoving, always holding the gunbutt in precisely the same relationship to the gun hand. The revolver’s trigger guard is completely exposed, and the gun is held away from the back portion of the holster well by a cunningly inserted plug of leather, allowing the trigger finger to enter the guard as the draw is commenced.
Designed by Jordan 30 years ago, this streamlined gun shuck is the standard of the U.S. Border Patrol, as well as many other top police agencies. Don Hume, the Miami Okla., leather craftsman currently makes thousands of these fast riggings annually, dubbing them the Jordan “River” holster.
For his exhibition work, Bill now uses a modification of the original Jordan rig, one that was designed by Lt. Dan Combs of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, himself an outstanding exhibition handgunner. The Combs improvement consists of a stainless steel insert throughout the complete holster, including the gun well, and the sewing of the belt tang to the belt for absolute rigidity. “This change is unnecessary for the officer who wears his belt and holster every day,” comments Jordan, “but it’s a help to me since I travel so much. My belt and holster are packed in my luggage most of the time, and the stainless steel liner prevents the holster’s being flattened out to cause binding of the gun."
Some more pertinent info/history: https://revolverguy.com/fighting-leather-jordan-holster/
I know, I’ve got an EPS Threepersons for my 1911’s. The retention strap on the Hume holsters is riveted and allows the strap to lay better along the holster when not in use.
The officer he negligently shot was John Rector. Rector’s daughter gave an account on a firearms board regarding the incident here https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2384639