Gonna have to think about this a little…not sure how I feel about it…
http://www.wsmv.com/story/25194837/senate-votes-for-open-gun-carry-without-permit
i legally open carried in VA with no permit from time to time before i got my CCW. I dont see an issue with it. Then again a free man shouldnt have to ask permission to carry a firearm. NC doesnt require a permit to open carry either.
I believe that Nevada also has open carry without a permit as well
This is good news IMO. I’m with Lawnchair no free man should need permission to carry a firearm.
May I ask, since I’ve not lived in an open carry state, why would anyone get a CCW if they could open carry? Don’t mean to ask a stupid question, just trying to understand…
We don’t have open carry in my state unless you have a CCW but to me it’s nice to be able to conceal so no one knows what I have and also it’s nice to go into a gun shop and buy what you want and not have to wait for it to go through the NICS.
I mean I don’t like people giving me looks or feeling threatened because I have a firearm, especially the way they are portrayed this day and age.
I know in Ohio, if you open carry, then get in a car with the gun still on you, it’s considered concealed carry. They have a funky definition about what a loaded firearm is also
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To answer your question skydvr, Open carry in larger cities is personally very undesirable to me. It attracts way more attention than I would want and is asking for various confrontations. Out of city limits or in smaller towns is a little different.
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Open carry, while legal here in VA, is not always wise. I’ve seen more than one person hassled about it. I’ve seen them be asked to leave stores and catch all kinds of grief. I am getting my CCW very soon and will cary concealed just because it personally makes more sense to me. I’ve never felt compelled to open carry, but I have nothing against those who do. Concealed carry gives you all of the benefits of being armed and none of the hassle of people giving you a hard time. If I had to go into some of the rougher parts of Richmond I probably would open carry.
Because some people don’t want everybody and his brother knowing you are carrying. When they say ‘open’… they mean ‘open’… It means ‘in sight’… Also in VA even if you are open carrying you -could, technically-- find yourself in a situation where someone calls the LEOs on you or even the LEO restrain you and say you are insiting<sp> … I forget the wording… basically someone contends the sight of your gun has escalated a situation.
Plus you don;t have to worry if for whatever reason you want to carry open for 95% of the time and every so often you want to stick your gun in your coat pocket… It’s $10 a year to do what you want. open or concealed.
I live in an open carry state (Nevada) and did the dance to get my ccw not to long ago…
Why would someone ccw if open carry is free and legal? Because I prefer not to open carry. We can pretend all day long that “shall not be infringed” is right there in black and white, and that every single man woman and child in this nation would die protecting that right, but that’s simply not the case. Outside of this forum the rest of the world doesn’t feel the way we do. Infact many feel the opposite. So I would rather avoid the uncomfortable stares, shopkeeps requesting that you leave (which is perfectly in their right to do so), and Terry stops. With all the recent violence and mass shootings the 911 call from that middle aged woman that works HR isn’t gonna be “there’s a law abiding citizen expressing the 2nd” no. it’s gonna come to the responding officer as “gunman at the mall”. There’s just simply no possible way I could wear my credentials and resume on my sleeve that would make everyone comfortable, so I choose to ccw.
This may be very different in smaller towns , but is pretty much the rule of thumb in suburbia and metropolitan areas.
Open carry would be undesirable as hell to me also, which is why I’ve had a CCW for 20+ years.
I liked the law like it stood and not sure the rush to change it.
But what about 2A? The only reason you have the law now is because the 2A was infringed upon. All they are doing is righting a wrong.
Because there are some times and places it is more prudent to CC and there are times and places it is more prudent to OC. Two different tools for the toolbox. One thing I have noticed about absolutists of both camps is they cannot see beyond their own personal situation and fail to comprehend that what works for them may not works for everybody.
I do NOT CC Large Frame Pistols when in the woods and while transiting rural areas. I see no need for CC in those situations, it is a hinderance.
Many states have had legal open carry for a long time - some since statehood. Michigan has been legal open carry for as long as I know. It is not common nor fully accepted and there have been citizen/LE incidents over open carry, but it is legal. However, like someone mentioned for Ohio, it legally becomes concealed carry if you get in a vehicle, so it’s not all that practical an option unless you also have a CPL (our CCW permit) or just want to open carry within walking distance of your home.
I like knowing that open carry is legal, and that if I do a poor job of concealment I’m still not breaking the law, but I only carry concealed for various practical reasons, like not wanting “OMG he’s got a gun!!!” type incidents, and the possible tactical advantage of not having a mugger know in advance that I’m armed.
I don’t want anyone to know I’m carrying; ever.
You are correct. It used to be a big deal here but LV Metro got a bit of training on the whole deal and now I think it’s a non-issue. I rarely see people OC’ing here.
There is a need for such legislation. Simply put in AZ (for example) you cannot open carry a firearm in a restaurant or bar. So you must have a CCW (even with constitutional carry).
In addition open carry of all firearms is legal (such as is the case in AZ) you can have a loaded long gun in your vehicle or person and there is no threat of being tasered and arrested by some over-zealous cop as recently happened it San Antonio, TX.
It also prevent someone from getting killed as happened in CA with the teenager who was carrying an airsoft gun (and the only law being allegedly broken was open carry).
I do not open carry as a rule thumb. But, if I am hiking, camping or traveling and I have my long gun I do not have to worry about some officer doing something that may cost me my life.
This. Though I have a CCW (TN equivalent but with an open carry option) when I go on hikes, even in the state protected swamps near my house, I take my long gun with me. This open carry law can help folks like me greatly in rural areas.
However, it will also bring out the over zealous and idiots as well, and here in TN we are in no short supply. Hopefully if that is the case, the novelty wears off.
Oh horrors, I just thought of Leonard Embody all of a sudden.
A lot of folks don’t/wont know who Leonard is…but he is a ****stick of the nth degree. If interested, you can google this idiots name I guess something would pop up.
BTW…is he still active? As a Tennessean, Im happy about the legislation. They also recently updated the TN Knife laws to end the 4" legal limit, and allow automatics to be carried legally. Before, you could own them, not carry them. Last I heard that bill was sitting on the Govs desk to be signed. Anyone have an update with that?