Anyone seen this? Kinda nuts.
Sort of mall ninja looking but an interesting concept. I’m not sure the time taken to drop the bolt before grabbing a new mag would be worth having a round in the chamber. But i can see lefty’s or guys running bad levers able to do it as they drop the old mag. Changing how you reload your gun just to utilize a niche product isn’t really my thing but it I like seeing truly new ideas.
Looks interesting, but I see this as a HUGE training curve… training yourself to send the bolt home AFTER bolt lock, but BEFORE magazine ejection… Then insert new mag and be good to go…
Kind of like items such as the BAD lever… if you’re going to opt for this new toy… you better do it, and have it for every rifle you use. Gain muscle memory on this… then go use a “regular” magazine and you’re all messed up again.
I see no good here. It requires you to change your training with no real benefit.
What is the point of the 31st round that you have to chamber separately?
That is pretty cool. At least immediately, I can only see it as an “oh shit, at least I have one more round” feature where you can chamber that last round instead of reloading. Even then, why not just always have 31 rounds?
Does no good if you’re just going to miss with that last shot. Practicing proven techniques trumps new toys 99% of the time… and this isn’t a “1%-level” innovation.
I don’t understand the difference. If you count your rounds you drop the mag at 29 same thing right?
No, that would equate to bolt closed with 1 in the chamber and an empty mag. This TTC mag means chamber empty with bolt locked back and 1 left in the mag.
I’d prefer some kind of signal rather than the bolt lock back. This is a sign I should get that garand I’ve been wanting.
I lose count of my rounds just messing around. I don’t imagine it would be any easier on the two way range. That being said I don’t think these will see any combat. As for Competition however this could be very useful.
In addition, Maklarbak recommends that the user should load a tracer for optimized preparation and efficiency.
Tells me everything I need to know about this product and its designer.
In theory, it makes sense. Bolt locks back with round in magazine. Send bolt home, drop mag, insert new mag and that entire time you’ve got a round in the chamber. But theory isnt real life. For one, I prefer loading magazines on an open bolt. They seat much easier, especially fully loaded (30 vs 28) magazines.
Would I be willing to change years of training and repetitions for a $24 magazine, probably not. Will people buy this because it’s the new shit, you bet. I’ll personally use that dough to buy 2 more pmags. Capitalism at its finest.
While a good concept, it completely changes ones training methods. If in a scenario where you have to use a standard mag or someone elses rifle, you would be all dicked up because now you released the bolt before inserting a new mag, now you have an empty chamber and have to charge it. It could cost you your life.
Try counting rounds in combat or a gunfight. Good luck with that. I’ll stick with the proven method of doing things until someone installs a warning device that says I’m empty.
No,…that last round is in the chamber. Bolt goes home when mag is released. One round in chamber when reaching for another mag.
Old school has worked for nearly 30 years for me,…think I’ll stick with what works.
The bolt wouldn’t lock back with a round in the chamber without extracting and ejecting the round (malfunctions are a different story).
By pushing the bolt release before changing the magazine, the soldier will have one shot chambered while changing mags.
It locks the bolt back with one round in the mag, so before you conduct a reload you hit the release and you have a round chambered while you are swapping mags.
It is stupid as it is in direct conflict with 99% of people’s training. Not to mention you still have a short period where the weapon has no round in the chamber; in both methods. No point in relearning something you already have set in via muscle memory plus the conflict that one will run into in the chance you have to use a standard mag or pick up someone else’s or an enemies weapon that will most likely have a standard mag.
I am thinking about getting a couple of these to try, anybody have them?
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/TangoDown-ARC-MK2-30-Magazine-AR15-black-p/arc-l-001c-blk.htm
Thank you sir.
Pass! I’m much too old to learn new tricks!:stop:
Yep… I stopped after that.
I agree. The K.I.S.S. theory has always worked best. I still have my old habits from the bush back 44= years ago.