https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI5NPiicXjE
I am a big fan of the Inrange and Forgotten Weapons youtube channels. The WWSD project has made some interesting choices in regards to the polymer GWACS lower and the carbon fiber hand guards. I am already a believer in the LW barrels and similar barrel profiles.
There is a series of youtube videos covering match footage with these rifles and the components they chose.
WWSD fan here. I’ve been watching the series since they started and have really enjoyed all the thought and testing that has gone into the project.
Been following them since and before they even started the build.
Not going to say that I agree with all of the choices that they made, the lower for example, I still find myself drawing to a lower with an adjustable stock, though my beard prefers a fixed, lol. Not to say they don’t give their reasons though, but there are a few different directions I would probably go in doing a similar build.
The LW barrel is definitely a direction I like though, as is looking at each competent for weight and what it brings to the table. I also liked the testing I think P&S did regarding laser deflection which had Karl’s rifle involved there. Was interesting as well. Also, I can’t remember which channel of INrange or Forgotten Weapons they took a gwacs lower and shot it, and then ran another match with it. Kind of impressive.
I vaguely remember that video. What were the results of the testing? They went up against a Geissele rail if I remember correctly.
I am also hesitant on the GWACS lower but am thinking about giving it a try.
I don’t remember the rails, I think the carbon fiber rail had similar vertical deflection, but also had horizontal deflection as well.
Is this the same Inrange guy who used to build custom AK’s in eastern Tennessee? His day job was as a cop IIRC.
No.
Here link t INrangeTV.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeUNM9NqJqZXfRNeuW4_2sg/videos?disable_polymer=1
That was why Inrange sounded familiar when I started watching their channel.
That should be close to Bass Pro, Knife Works, and Bud’s. The town is named after Kodak cameras too.
I like the WWSD vids. The GWACS lower does look interesting and I really can’t recall reading many bad reviews on them when they were Cav Arms.
Been trying to find the laser deflection one, does anyone have a link?
I like the idea of a good polymer lower, but an adjustable stock is essential to me. Everything else I think is rock solid; it’s definitely a neat project.
When I see a guy who looks like he still plays Dungeons & Dragons and another dude in Kryptek; I tune out and disregard all they have to say.
Gene Stoner (Peace Be Upon Him) did the SR-15 and the SR-25.
These are just lame builds that look pointless.
Degeneracy…
What is that thing bout not judging a book by cover 
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They do make point through their series of the goals they had, which for me, and many aren’t my goals, but they make points bout what they were going for.
Sit down and watch some of their actual discussions, they did a video or three with Jim Sullivan, and there some deep stuff there. While I don’t think they know everything, and even they poke fun at themselves bout that, they do shoot their shit pretty extensively so I will give them more credence than many other channels. At least they had the idea of trying to push things and maybe make mistakes to reach a goal, even if that goal might not have been fully realized.
Maybe.
Gene Stoner’s legacy is in the SR-15. I sit here and think, “What are these rifles offering that an SR-15 doesn’t ?”
I couldn’t think of anything.
I just, personally, found it pretentious, but that is just my opinion.
The way I recall them explaining their decision to use the fixed-stock GWACS lowers was that while an adjustable stock was a plus, currently the GWACS lower was the only polymer lower available on the market that demonstrated acceptable durability. The ones designed like regular lowers tend to fail at the point where the RE threads in.
Personally I’ve been known to use carbines and midlengths with fixed A1 length stocks and rather like the configuration, so I’d probably find the GWACS lower quite usable.
Stoner’s Sr15 was the pinnacle of his designs in a lot of ways when it was brought out. And it is still damn good. But Stoner, and may Peace be upon his soul, died what close to 20 years ago now? If he were still alive, what directions might he try to take with the design now? That is kind of the direction that they were trying to go in from what I gleaned from their videos. I don’t think think they ever set out to make like they were reinventing the wheel or that the rifle was better in all ways. It was more of a route of trying to bring the rifle back to the lightweight carbine of the M16 of years gone by. With their one set up coming in sub 7 pounds if I recall with optics, light, laser, and sling. There is still the adage of mission driving the gear, and while even I am wanting for one reason of another to build a light weight rifle, there are a number of items they went with that I would not go with because they don’t meet my own needs. And they acknowledge that in their own videos. I mean, for the gear and parts that they listed as being what they were going with for the builds, the running joke from Ian was they were stamping it with their stamp of hubris.
They may not be perfect but they are trying to do more in regards to getting good or at least rational information out there and pushing gear harder then 99% of channels out there that I see.
Honestly, Kain I think he would have updated his AR-16/AR-18 line.
The AR is good but Piston has a niche. The KAC SLICK rifle was sorta like a SCAR and sorta not.
I think a suppressed .308 Carbine piston not unlike a SCAR would have been his new hotness
I’m not sure he would have. Depending on what you read and who you listen to the AR18 line was a work around for him since at the time he was designing it Colt I believe held the patents that covered the AR15/M16 FOWs, otherwise I would think he would have focused on refining the AR18 further than he did. Not to say he couldn’t have, or wouldn’t have brought both into the 20th century with continued refinements, just that it would have appeared that he had the option to focus on either one when he continued to develop the SR15. Then again, I think his real baby was in a lot of ways the SR25. But, we can go around and chase our tails on what could have been until we fall over from exhaustion, I think if NFA, and huges amendment and the cilton ban had not been in place we could have seen some really invovative stuff with supressed firearms.
The long haired guy’s background is aero engineering so not too far off from another dude using Fairchild aircraft technology for small arms.
I can agree. I think he would have addressed the SCAR niche, but the AR-10 was always his baby. It was the battle rifle too far ahead of its time. The guys toting SR-25s today have more or less the same gun as was in 1959. Updated but very much same bloodline.
As per the engineering guy, he can get a haircut 
The “guy who looks like he still plays Dungeons & Dragons” is Ian McCollum, who just co-authored a book with Larry Vickers and is a consultant for some of the largest firearms auction houses in the US.
You mean Ian aka “Gun Jesus”? He may not have any face shooting in his background but he’s a gun nerd and historian of the first order. He also worked with Larry Vickers on the latest Vickers Guide book, and I believe is going to be working on at least one more upcoming volume.