Thinking of trading off a SIG P229 what to replace it with?

General Firearms Handguns - Semi Auto
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As the thread title suggests I am considering trading off or selling outright a SIG P229 DAK, I have both the .40S&W and .357SIG barrels for this pistol. I virtually never use the .40S&W barrel, and prefer the .357SIG hands down but ammo is expensive, hard to find, and a pain in the ass to reload according to everyone who’s tried it.

Also despite my best efforts to like the DAK trigger, fact is that I don’t. At all. In fact I’ll flatly state that I hate all double action triggers that are not on a revolver. I’ve shot it enough to know that while mechanically pretty accurate, I am never going like this trigger. I also find the grip to be just a little too short, and a little too fat.

This brings up the question of what to replace it with, and I’m kind of stuck here. I want another .45ACP since I have large quantities of brass, bullets, ammo and reloading equipment for .45ACP including a progressive press set up to run .45ACP. I don’t have the bench space for another progressive, and I’m not inclined to mess with setting up a new caliber on it every time I want to run ammo.

I have a Kimber Super Match II and I shoot it well and used to compete actively with this pistol but don’t like carrying a gun with adjustable sights that hang up on everything. Plus I realize that a Bo-Mar style sight is not the most ding and knock resistant ever made.

I like a decent single action trigger, and I’m open to another 1911 but I am not hell bent on getting one. I used to own an HK USP45 that I really liked but at the time I couldn’t have both the Kimber and the USP ($$$) so the USP got traded off. I liked that the USP was very accurate, very reliable, and could be carried cocked and locked. I didn’t like the 2X4 like grip or the stock sights, and I wish the trigger were better on it.

So what I’m looking for is a reasonably sized .45ACP pistol, it doesn’t have to be compact but I wouldn’t rule that out either as long as I can get my whole shooting hand on the grip frame. I don’t mind if the gun prints under garments when I do carry concealed, if I need a deep concealment piece I’ll be looking for something else entirely.

I’m open to suggestions here if anyone cares to give any I’ll consider them. I’m not afraid to spend some coin on a nice firearm within reason so this shouldn’t be too hard since I don’t have a a strict budget.

I would like something that is highly reliable, accurate/easy to shoot well, and durable under less than ideal conditions. My priorities are in that order, I don’t mind doing some maintenance to keep a pistol performing well. Frankly the crowd that loves to run their guns dry and never clean them is one I don’t really understand, but I was taught to take care of my equipment so it can take care of me.

Pistols under consideration right now are:

Springfield Armory TRP 1911 or some other good quality 1911

HK45 or HK45c

SIG Sauer P220 (SAO)

Open to other suggestions as long as they don’t have a 2X4 for a grip, and have provision for a decent single action trigger.

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I too am looking hard at the HK45C.

Thinking of trading two 1911s I never shoot for the thing, too.

I just like the size and feel of the HK45C…its not too thick and chunky like other polymer 45s.

-brickboy240

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Along with the HK45c, the M&P45 Mid size is a great platform. Its a good size for CCW, not too small to be difficult or uncomfortable to shoot, but not huge like some of the other double stack 45s. Trigger could be better out of the box, but you can train to it. The Apex kit works well too, if you find the trigger to be substandard.

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That was my alternative…the M&P45 mid-sized.

It sure is cheaper than the HK45C.

-brickboy240

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Indeed.

If money wasn’t part of the equation I’d most likely go with an HK 45c with an LEM trigger, but I certainly feel confidant about the M&P. My example has been fine once I got used to the stock trigger.

I will mention that the M&P shipped with some wonky magazines, but S&W fixed the problem quickly. Ever since (roughly 4K later) its been great.

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I would buy this. Awesome deal for $510.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=307507

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Yea don’t forget another $150 to get rid of the M&P’s shitty trigger.

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I hadn’t considered an M&P I’ll see if I can find one to see how it feels in the hand. I do have to point out that for me as close to a true SA trigger I can get the better. I realize that training will bring skill up to whatever trigger I might have, but I already know that I shoot SA well.

I’ve dry fired a few M&P pistols and never liked those triggers either. Same for the Glock. However I know trigger jobs can be performed just curious what the triggers end up feeling like. I prefer minimal take up, a clean break, and just enough over travel to let the trigger reset.

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M&P .45 Mid size, or HK45C.

However, you could always roll the tried, and true G19.

Also worth looking at in .45, would be an FN offering.

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I just picked up an M&P mid size with the thumb safety. I am a 1911 guy and wanted something with the same manual of arms. I was some what impressed with the trigger. It is a bit heavy, but the reset is better then the last M&P 45 I owned. It doesn’t seem to have that fake reset point I noticed in my last full size. I did order an FSS kit for it, but I hope to put a couple hundred rounds before I install it. I have been dry firing it and noticed that the trigger seems to be getting a bit lighter. Even with the FSS my total cost is about 780 which is still 60-80 lower then the lowest cost Springer I would consider (range officer).

If you are used to 1911s this is the best polymer gun out there. The price that G&R has on it is pretty amazing, and if I would have done a bit better research I would have ordered it there and saved roughly $70 after shipping and most likely could have had the FSS installed by Grant (I ordered the parts through him anyway). Plus he currently has extra mags in stock, though they do have the tan base plate.

The HK .45 is an amazing gun, but the thumb safety models get in the way for me, and I am not a huge fan of the LEM trigger. Plus the mags were 60 before the craze, so I would hate to see what they are now.

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Reasonably sized 45? I’d go with a 1911. The TRP would be a good gun to have. I know it’s not a tacticool zombie killer, but it would serve you well.

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From what I have read…the 45 caliber M&P does not suffer the accuracy problems that plague the M&P9 full size.

The few I have handled recently had better triggers (I only dry fired them) than the M&P9s I have shot. Maybe they DID put the Shield’s trigger in the 45s?

They also seem to be reliable, as I don’t recall any reports of M&P45s jamming.

It is hard to justify paying the price for the HK45C, when for the same amount of money for the HK45C alone I could have the M&P45C, several mags and maybe a Raven holster.

As much as I love my G19…I’d skip it right now. 9mm ammo is very hard to find as are G19 mags. I see 45 ammo all over the place and I am sure there is no panic buying of the M&P45 mags.

-brickboy240

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I’m not in the market for a 9mm. So don’t bother suggesting one. I’m set up to reload .45ACP in volume.

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Tacticool nonsense makes me less likely to even consider a firearm or other products. That’s just me though, and I tend to like relatively simple strait forward guns without a bunch of mall ninja shit hanging off of them. A good trigger, a good set of sights, and a grip that feels good and points well is all I really care about. Assuming of course the pistol is well made and reliable.

Any other 1911 sugestions other than a TRP? I’ve also considered Wilson, Baer, and Brown but that is getting up there $$$ wise to the point I would have to save some coin. Not saying I wouldn’t buy one though, heavens knows I have more expensive guns than a semi-custom 1911.

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HK45.

Ergos are great, trigger is great, gun is accurate.

I don’t own an HK, but I like the HK45.

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M&P 45 or HK45.

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Dan Wesson. Hands down built as well as the semi customs at a high end production price.

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Agreed. I’m a1911 guy BTW. Own a hk45c. Great carry 45! It would have to be at least a VBOB for me to buy a 1911 over a Hk45/45c. Had to stipple my 45c which made it perfect for me.

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Going to try to find an M&P.45 and HK45 and compare the two if possible alongside a decent 1911.

The potential enhanced reliability of the S&W or HK over a 1911 are very attractive selling points as long as they have decent triggers grips and sights. Although sights are easy to replace.