I previously was not that happy with my Vltor VIS using the Thumb-over-bore hold using magpul ladders. It was too square.
Then I bought some LaRue index clips, and all of that changed.
I previously had tried the Magpul AFG, but did not like the angle of my wrist. It seemed unnatural and fatigue inducing.
I ended up using my LaRue FUG and placing 3 fingers on it, like a hand-stop/VFG combo kindof. The angle worked better for me than the AFG.
Now, with the LaRue clips, I can use thumb-over bore. The rail is comfortable to grab with them, and it’s larger than some of the very skinny rails out there.
What advantage does a skinny rail have?
I tried grabbing a broom handle, and it was much more uncomfortable due to my hand closing further around it. It seems the more the rail fills my hand, the less awkward stress is placed on my wrist.
Am I weird and unique, or are other people appreciative of the more medium size rails than the very thin one’s?
I tend to be able to bench and dead-lift more weight/reps with a thicker bar at the gym, as well, I have noticed. I use my forearms less and the other muscles (chest, lat, tri, etc) more and my grip fatigues much slower. That’s what got me to thinking about my M4, from this angle.
My grip strength isnt an issue… so I can deadlift the same amount whether its a skinny or thicker bar… if you’ve ever used a “fat bar” i’m sure your deadlift would go down!
That being said, I feel like my grip worsens the wider my hand gets… therefore, I prefer a skinnier handguard (or bar for that matter). Obviously enough force isnt produced by an AR15 to provide grip issues, but a smaller handguard just feels more secure.
I like your skinny bar fat bar analogy. It’s the damn truth too!
I’m in agreance with you as well…I prefer skinnier rails as opposed to the fatter ones. I personally get a tighter, more crontrollable grip on the rifle itself when it has a skinnier rail.
One of the reasons I prefer the URX III and DD RIS II rails.
It’s more the angle the forend bends my wrist at when it’s so skinny that bothers me. Never did have bendy wrists. I cannot do clean and press very much because of it.
I don’t like giving him any of my $$ either, but if his gear is the best for the task at hand for me, I don’t let personal disgust for the maker get in the way of the gear. Just think of it this way…there are plenty of good people who work there that get more of the $$ combined than he does for each purchase.
He’s just a douchbag of a person. He’s even admitted that when people meet him in person, they ask him why he’s such a douche on the forums.
He controls what’s posted and who stays on AR15.com. He’s always into high school drama with other industry people… instead of just shutting up and letting his product stand on its own good reputation.
And he doesn’t sell his highly touted “Dillo Dust” on his website. You gotta buy his products first before you get one for free. Boy, what a Douche!!! :sarcastic:
I get what your saying now. Its uncomfortable on my wrists to grab the forend unless i’m using a VFG. They just dont like bending that way… but it does not seem to make a difference whether the forends are skinny or fat.
100% agreed. If he was some terrorist, anti-american, satan worshiping individual, I might not buy his products… but he’s not. Just become he comes across “a lil douchy” is no reason for me not to buy his stufff. He has a wide selection of tried, proven, and well made products; and for that, I will not let stupid internet distaste sway me from his business.
Matter of fact, think i’m gonna go buy a T1 and mount from him now…
The tighter I close my hand, the tenser my wrist seems to get.
LaRue is a dick, but he does make good stuff, and he doesn’t get near the profit that his other employees must get when I place an order, by the numbers, so if his gear is the best for an application, yeah, I still buy it. I’m with you. If I let my dislike for someone make me use inferior gear, who exactly hurt who?
[QUOTE=markm;1388877]He’s just a douchbag of a person. He’s even admitted that when people meet him in person, they ask him why he’s such a douche on the forums.
