The Thing About Rush Limbaugh...

Generally speaking I don’t like or listen to people like Limbaugh and Hannity. It’s not that I don’t appreciate someone taking it to liberals and the Obama administration, it’s just that often their red meat delivery gets so over-the-top that I’m left sitting there going “Dude…stop being on my side!”

For instance saying that he “hopes the Obama administration fails”. Hopes? Why would you hope the country suffers? I understand that one may fear the consequences of his actions, but to hope the nation fails smacks so much of the flawed utopianism and societal sabotage usually associated with the left.

If you believe in capitalism and individual liberty then one should KNOW that Obama’s foray into Socialism will fail, that if he were to succeed it would be to defy the judgment of thousands of years of human history. So what does hoping Obama fails get you? Be smart, disagree with the policies but HOPE he succeeds while privately knowing that there is no freakin way.

Oppose Obama in good conscience as part of the “loyal” opposition, argue the intellectual perspective that he doesn’t hope the Country fails, only that the policies Obama embraces will inevitably result in failure. They cannot work. Oppose him as a matter of conscience and intellect, but don’t hope for his failure…weep for it.

While I don’t doubt his sincerity, I’m really, really tired of Rush Limbaugh and wish he could just say he is sometimes wrong. A true conservative should be able to acknowledge failure. For the Republican party to embrace Limbaugh as their intellectual rolemodel, is to court electoral defeat for another 20 years.

Yeah, plus his little prescription drug habit. Any alternatives people wish the party was using instead of him?

That’s why I like Glenn Beck, he sticks it to both sides when they’re not making sense. I agree with you completely on Hannity and Limbaugh, but my main problem with them in the past has been their lack of defense of the 2nd Amendment. While I don’t pay attention to them as much as I watch Beck, I never really seem to see or hear them talk about gun rights that much. At least Beck addresses it, and he has been pretty regularly lately.

I’m a Rush fan and people forget he is still a “shock Jock”.

He also specified he wanted Obama to fail, not the USA. It’s not like the RNC had him speak, that was CPAC…even Palin didn’t show up.

I too prefer Beck.

I think that the spin on the “I want obama to fail” bit is getting into nooks and cranny’s it shouldn’t.

He wants liberalism and socialism to fail, and America to succeed. I dont listen to Rush either but caught a few minutes of the CPAC thing over the weekend where he explained this in detail.

I also watched in disgust as DL hughley talked to Steele last night about how “Black People vote democrat because democrats make sure they get things” It’s hard to argue with someone who has no issues taking free handouts to the point where they depend on them.

This isn’t to say that I feel all Black people are like this because I don’t, they were strictly speaking of those living in poor areas.

The thing about it is…we all know socialism/communism/marxism has failed in the past, but what happened to the countries where a serious effort was put into making it work…look at russia…it’s a dump.

he is an attention whore…that’s it.

I’m a Limbaugh and Hannity fan. And I don’t think anything that they say is anything that could be considered inappropriate, or offensive, or anything like that. If you remember during the media’s obama asskiss campaign they talked all sorts of bullshit about Palin, McCain, and all the other republicans and no one said a thing. But when a conservative says something about a democrap, all hell brakes loose and the conservatives are made to look like the bad guy. Rush didn’t say he hopes the country is to fail with obama. What he said was he hopes obama fails so that none of his plans succeed and the US stays the country that it is.

If Obama and his policies fail, what happens to the US?

If Obama somehow succeeds, it will mean that everything we know about economics, markets and the last 230 years of American commercial dominance was wrong. If Limbaugh “hopes” Obama fails, instead of knowing he will, then Rush hasn’t been paying attention.

No country stays the same. Change always happens, but conservatism argues that change should happen when absolutely necessary.

Limbaugh did not create individual liberty, free markets nor the conservative philosophy. If the best he can do is “hope” for Obama’s failure than he is a poor spokesman for conservatism.

There was an excellent op-ed by David Brooks the other day I think spells out my concerns pretty clearly, not about Rush, but the anxiety I feel for the future of this country.

February 24, 2009
OP-ED COLUMNIST
The Big Test

By DAVID BROOKS
“We cannot successfully address any of our problems without addressing all of them.”

Barack Obama, Feb. 21, 2009

When I was a freshman in college, I was assigned “Reflections on the Revolution in France” by Edmund Burke. I loathed the book. Burke argued that each individual’s private stock of reason is small and that political decisions should be guided by the accumulated wisdom of the ages. Change is necessary, Burke continued, but it should be gradual, not disruptive. For a young democratic socialist, hoping to help begin the world anew, this seemed like a reactionary retreat into passivity.

Over the years, I have come to see that Burke had a point. The political history of the 20th century is the history of social-engineering projects executed by well-intentioned people that began well and ended badly. There were big errors like communism, but also lesser ones, like a Vietnam War designed by the best and the brightest, urban renewal efforts that decimated neighborhoods, welfare policies that had the unintended effect of weakening families and development programs that left a string of white elephant projects across the world.

These experiences drove me toward the crooked timber school of public philosophy: Michael Oakeshott, Isaiah Berlin, Edward Banfield, Reinhold Niebuhr, Friedrich Hayek, Clinton Rossiter and George Orwell. These writers — some left, some right — had a sense of epistemological modesty. They knew how little we can know. They understood that we are strangers to ourselves and society is an immeasurably complex organism. [b]They tended to be skeptical of technocratic, rationalist planning and suspicious of schemes to reorganize society from the top down.

Before long, I was no longer a liberal.[/b] Liberals are more optimistic about the capacity of individual reason and the government’s ability to execute transformational change. They have more faith in the power of social science, macroeconomic models and 10-point programs.

Readers of this column know that I am a great admirer of Barack Obama and those around him. And yet the gap between my epistemological modesty and their liberal worldviews has been evident over the past few weeks. The people in the administration are surrounded by a galaxy of unknowns, and yet they see this economic crisis as an opportunity to expand their reach, to take bigger risks and, as Obama said on Saturday, to tackle every major problem at once.

President Obama has concentrated enormous power on a few aides in the West Wing of the White House. These aides are unrolling a rapid string of plans: to create three million jobs, to redesign the health care system, to save the auto industry, to revive the housing industry, to reinvent the energy sector, to revitalize the banks, to reform the schools — and to do it all while cutting the deficit in half.

If ever this kind of domestic revolution were possible, this is the time and these are the people to do it. The crisis demands a large response. The people around Obama are smart and sober. Their plans are bold but seem supple and chastened by a realistic sensibility.

Yet they set off my Burkean alarm bells. I fear that in trying to do everything at once, they will do nothing well. I fear that we have a group of people who haven’t even learned to use their new phone system trying to redesign half the U.S. economy. I fear they are going to try to undertake the biggest administrative challenge in American history while refusing to hire the people who can help the most: agency veterans who are registered lobbyists.

I worry that we’re operating far beyond our economic knowledge. Every time the administration releases an initiative, I read 20 different economists with 20 different opinions. I worry that we lack the political structures to regain fiscal control. Deficits are exploding, and the president clearly wants to restrain them. But there’s no evidence that Democrats and Republicans in Congress have the courage or the mutual trust required to share the blame when taxes have to rise and benefits have to be cut.

All in all, I can see why the markets are nervous and dropping. And it’s also clear that we’re on the cusp of the biggest political experiment of our lifetimes. If Obama is mostly successful, then the epistemological skepticism natural to conservatives will have been discredited. We will know that highly trained government experts are capable of quickly designing and executing top-down transformational change. If they mostly fail, then liberalism will suffer a grievous blow, and conservatives will be called upon to restore order and sanity.

It’ll be interesting to see who’s right. But I can’t even root for my own vindication. The costs are too high. I have to go to the keyboard each morning hoping Barack Obama is going to prove me wrong.

Good read GSJ

In case anyone else was looking for it here is the link to David Brooks article

Buckaroo

What Rush said is he wants Obama’s socialism to fail. I agree with him.

I want Obama’s attempts to ban guns to fail. I want Obama’s attempts to nationalize health care to fail. I want Obama’s attempts to redistribute wealth to fail. I want Obama’s attempts to destroy private investment/401Ks and replace them with government pensions to fail. I want Obama’s attempts to replace the market’s role in designing cars with his own ideas of what should drive to fail. I want Obama’s attempts to destroy free speech with “local content” or whatever trick to fail.

Pay attention to what he actually said, not what the MSM reports he said.

M_P

Obama is a DUNCE.

The sooner he fails the better. If he doesn’t fail hard and fast the country will continue down the slippery slope to complete SOCIALISM.

If Dunce boy doesn’t fail hard, kiss your rights goodbye and say hello to big government for a long time.

It makes perfect sense.

You are absolutely crazy if you want Obama to succeed. If he succeeds, it is bad news for the USA.

His polices are so bad that if he were to succeed in implementing them all the US would be doomed.

That is why we want him to fail. Him failing would be the greatest thing to happen to this country.

It is still going to be bad for America regardless, but if he does fail at least the country will not be FUBAR.

To achieve that end he has to actually fix and stabilize the economy. To achieve social ends he needs to build political capital by fixing the economy. Since history has shown you can’t fix an economy by resorting to socialist economics and the policies you enumerated, Obama is condemning himself to failure. Why else do you think the markets are tanking? They hoped he wouldn’t disincentivize risk, but he did exactly that.

Pay attention to what he actually said, not what the MSM reports he said.

Pay attention to what I actually said. If you think I’m going by the MSM than you haven’t. By the way, if you haven’t noticed, Rush is part of the MSM.

Please, READ what I wrote.

Success in creating a socialist economy IS NOT what I’m talking about.

Success in stabilizing the economy so America can get back to business IS what I’m talking about.

By any definition of success Obama must make life better for Americans. If he doesn’t, he gets voted out of office sooner rather than later.

It’s like the law of gravity. People don’t elect losers and Obama is making himself a one-term president

ONE MORE TIME…obviously socialism IS NOT going to stabilize diddly, but the cost of his failure is fair higher than the cost of success.

If dunceboy fails, he just loses political office.

We lose an economy.

You all know what a Pyrrhic victory is right?

An economy has a better chance of rebirth than an entire democracy.

I’d rather have short term economic chaos than long term socialist mediocrity.

The entire republic is at risk without the economic means to pay for our defense.

Democracy is irrelevant without a nation that can sustain itself.

I wish it were that simple, I’m not the one you have to convince.

The question is whether you’d like to have both.

So you would rather an economy stabilized with socialist policies than an economy recovering on its own?