I think part of it, at least for me, was a misunderstanding of why was a trigger pull bad and what makes a great trigger great. Weight was really the only thing I understood, lighter was better, until I shot a gun that was stock with a great trigger (recently reinforced again with recent acquisition of preowned 92 LTT Elite). The importance of the action of the trigger was what I didn’t get (no experience) and how two same weighted triggers could feel vastly different based on geometry and finish on mating surfaces (polished or with tool marks). It’s why polishing or addition trigger time can improve a heaver trigger, yet a spring lightened 4 pound creepy gritty trigger isn’t really much of an improvement over a stock springer 5-8 lbs trigger.
I have the same from Optics planet. Case of 9mm. They even stopped updating. To their credit they didn’t take money so if they decide to quietly forget the whole thing I’m not out anything
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Exactly. I see people bragging about trigger weight and kind of shake my head. I would much rather have a 5 lb trigger with a clean take up, crisp break, minimum over travel and a good reset than a crappy trigger with light springs in it.
Doing a recent build and using FCD parts as much as possible (except the elusive EPC) Found a place that had everything I wanted listed in stock; https://www.tacticallink.com/
Since I was a new customer I created an account during checkout. I got the welcome email for the new account creation, and got all subsequent marketing emails from them so I know they now had my email on file. However no order confirmation email. A day later I thought I might have forgotten something on my order and went back to log in and check it. No dice. Would not take my email or password. Tried the password reset and the error message was that my email address was not in their database. They have no way to contact them other than submitting a web form so I did that and waited. A few days later with no response to my CS request, and no order confirmation email, I tracked down a phone number for them and attempted to call. Phone number listed was not taking calls. At this point I am thinking I got scammed, even though I had checked on one of my forums and was told folks had bought from them in the past. On day 5 I’m about ready to call the bank and dispute any charges when my order shows up in my mail box. The marketing emails have stopped and I never did get a response to my CS inquiry. So shipping is fast. Prices were fair. But do not expect any communication at all. If you are not concerned with that then buy away.
Just dealt with a similar seller with a knife. It arrived, but communication was worse than horrible.
It’s frustrating for sure. I am sure I have said before that I worked in the ecommerce industry for a good many years and that kind of lack of communication is just not acceptable. And it is SO easy to correct.
I must be lucky [emoji256]
I have never had a bad experience with Botach.
Shipping usually takes a bit, but they carry some stuff that can be difficult to source and it’s usually in stock. Granted, they’re not my go to source for much of anything.
I get it. I’ve had that same luck with Optics Planet / Dvor while others have not
Negligent discharge
That’s actually funny.
I won’t even go to OP website because of two ridiculous experiences with that crew.
Interesting how they ALWAYS show up at the very top of most searches.
I hear you. I wish I had some insight into why I rarely have issues with them. But I don’t. DVOR stuff sometimes has the wrong product description. I caught it on a barrel I ordered and called them when I saw it post order They cancelled the order and replaced it with one from their Optics Planet inventory, gave me free shipping and a discount. But I do NOT like how they list inventory on the Optics Planet store. Very misleading and is what I think leads to people getting pissed off.
I wasn’t sure about Black Phase Tactical but they were one of the few that had some parts I needed. The checkout process raised a red flag because they invoiced me rather than me paying directly on the site.
Both orders were quick to arrive and I never had to interact with customer service.
Had a great experience with Europtic. A little background. I had a handful of Visa gift cards sitting around that needed to be used up. The frustrating part is if you want to order online, and your order exceeds the available balance on the gift card, most stores will not allow you to do what we call a multi tender checkout. In other words if I buy a $500 item and have a $100 Visa gift card there is no way to use it and your credit card on the same order. Some stores you can buy store specific gift cards and use them etc etc. So anyway, wanted a new optic and they had the best price and had free two day shipping. So on Sunday I shot them an email (not expecting a reply) and asked if I could just call them and place the order over the phone using my gift cards in combination with my debit card. They responded in less than an hour saying not a problem, give us a call. I called on Monday and the entire process was completely painless. Emailed me an invoice and had ship confirmation within a few hours. Keep in mind I had tried calling other retailers prior to this when something popped up on sale trying to do the same thing and usually got a 20 year old kid who was unable to help at all. The one kid said to me “Oh yeah we have had a request in with those guys for 3 or 4 years to figure this out but no idea man.” It’s ironic that I am praising a business for simply not making it hard to spend money with them. But here we are lol. I will buy more stuff from Europtic gong forward.
From the “WTF Bullshit Ripoff” file, DEGuns jacking regular AR PMAGs up to $20 each. Probably because of the run on 'em thanks to the retards and walking dogturds who blight WA State Gov and the ban they just rammed through over mass popular objection…
What was their cost before?
Around $10-15 if memory serves. Admittedly, I could be misremembering due to the combination of early-onset old age and a few too many hard knocks to the head…
That isn’t too bad. Can you remember the place near Boeing that raised their Colt 6920 prices to $7k when panic buying was at its highest?
I think I missed that dubious pleasure, Stick… but there were plenty of ripoff artists around WAC shows to make up for it.
LOL, that is certainly true. Nothing like parking in the rain and walking through continual puddles to get inside and find not just over priced stuff, but horribly over priced stuff.
Bravo Company Guns is another scam site.