The Proto Tac PT-199 Suppressor

A $199.00 Suppressor?

I wanted to post this here as sort of a pre-emptive strike… I know there will be a lot of questions about this suppressor. I designed this for Proto Tac and just wanted to share some comments about the design and purpose.

Some will recognize the idea… it started when I was working at Vltor, Eric and I talked about a low cost suppressor for some time and even started down that road. The problem is, when you are working with some very bright and creative minds, the “good idea feary” keeps popping up.

It is hard to resist some of the ideas… feature creep. Great product improvements, but each one drives the cost up… soon, the initial idea is lost. So I have spent the last couple of years playing around with different ideas, materials, production methods and whatnot - and here it is. Proto Tactical is making the $199.00 Suppressor for the 5.56mm rifles; I wanted to share with you what it is, and what it is not.

What it is: The PT-199 is a low cost “suppressor for the masses” - if you want a suppressor but can not part with 600 bucks to get one, the PT-199 was designed for you.

The idea was to make an efficient suppressor that works for the majority of the folks…

The Rules: When I designed this, I had some hard and fast rules. I wanted to make a solid design that was primarily a suppressor… some things had to take a back seat. I was not going to try to make some sort of quick disconnect, or use fancy alloys… the two prime motivations were: quiet, and cheap. Less than the cost of the transfer tax.

About the Suppressor: it is all stainless steel, welded construction, 7" long, 1.5" diameter, and weighs 26 ounces. It mounts directly to the barrel via 1/2X28 threads and reduces the muzzle report. That simple.

I could not use exotic alloys to get the weight down, as the cost of materials would exceed the 199 price point quickly… but the entire can is stainless steel.

All welded construction… again, this keeps cost down, but I do have a determination from the ATF that it can be rebuilt at Proto Tac without having to call it remanufactured.

Inside: there are nine baffles… the first two are high nickel alloy baffles in a double expansion chamber design… after that, there are seven stainless steel baffles. Are the blast baffles Inconel? No… Inconel is a proprietary name for a line of nickel alloys and is expensive (it is also not the best choice for a baffle!). I worked with a gentleman that builds cylinder heads for Top Fuel Dragsters and talked a lot about exhaust valves - I was able to source an alloy that is 1% lower in nickel than Inconel, and 1/3 of the cost.

How well does it work? I am working with a company that has all the proper test equipment to do a measure of sound pressures and will have that up as soon as it is done… it will be a third party, independent test. For now, suffice to say that everyone that has shot one of these, has bought one… some folks say they don’t need hearing protection when shooting with it - I of course would recommend a set of foamies, just to be sure.

Accuracy? The test models have all shown no change or an improvement in accuracy, depending on the ammo - POI shift has consistently been a little less than 1 MOA.

Rated for Full-Auto? Well… I have shot a buttload of rounds through one full auto, one day we did about 500 rounds form a short barreled full auto in a very short time frame… but be honest, if you can afford a transferable full auto and 10,000 rounds of ammo to burn up… well…

Short Barrel? Sure, no problem.

Is it heavy? It ain’t light… it is on the heavier side of suppressors at 26 ounces, but again - it is what it is. Actually, on an 11.5-12.5 inch barrel it handles nicely.

How many rounds will it last? Trick question… if you shoot semi-auto, a few mags as fast as you can, maybe a few thousand rounds a year… it will last the rest of your life. If you do 10 full-auto mag dumps as fast as you can, ever other day… remember, they will offer a rebuild service.

So who would want one? I designed this for the average Joe… if you are serious about your carbine/rifle shooting and want a suppressor, this may be what you are looking for. The idea was to make an economy can that you screw on your gun and leave it there… feel free to run it hard. I had in mind the person that shoots every couple of weeks, a course or two a year, runs through 5000 rounds a year and really wants a suppressor. It will last you a long time.

Is that the best you can do? No, I have a can that we are testing that is freaky quiet - like when you shoot it, you think the gun misfired. Also, I am putting together this same PT-199 suppressor with different unobtanium alloys, should be interesting to see how that works!

Bottom Line… the can was not meant to compete with the top name suppressors, it was designed to be an economical way for the average (but serious) shooter to get a suppressor… without having to sell a kidney.

I’d definitely give it a whirl. Got to wait and see if I’m moving…Stamps are taking longer and longer to process.

Good idea though.

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Sounds interesting, cant wait to see range reports/db info/vid/etc… Thanks for thinking about the little guy (average Joe) shooter.

Kino, this is very interesting. I have a buddy at work that is thinking about a can for a .223 coyote hunting rig. It would be a real asset for him. I know it’s possibly not the market you had in mind, but I think this would be excellent for his use at the ranch.

Thanks for all the work you put into this!

Interesting and I approve of the concept and the target audience. For me? No, not likely, at least not on an AR (Would splurge and go for a higher end model with those costly features.) However, I would consider one for a bolt action rifle perhaps with bare threads to work with. Am getting settled into a new job and have spoken of getting a tax stamp or two, so perhaps this could be my first. Will see. But it is nice to see someone clonk the idea of suppressors much be $500+ items before tax stamp over the head.

On second thought though, maybe I should withhold my praise after all with NFA wait times a cheap suppressor is just going to up the wait times as the more penny pinching gun owners grab onto this and clog up the already poorly managed system more. Damn you!! :smiley:

It works pretty well on an AR :smiley:

I have to say, a suppressor that costs less than the stamp is definitely an interesting product. This sounds PERFECT for a bolt gun to spend some time varmint hunting, or even for an SBR if my state ever get’s it’s stuff together…

Damn stranger haven’t seen you around these parts in a while and now you pop up with this… Looks awesome now can you do something about the form 4 wait times so we can all get one sooner rather than later.

In for sure!

I’m that guy you had in mind when you designed this. I will buy it.

I saw this on facebook the other day. I am def. interested.

Kino, I talked to another buddy about your new can over dinner tonight. He’s definitely interested as well.

I’ll buy one, too. So that makes three right here.

You get them to market, and we’ll keep spreading the word. :slight_smile:

I am supposed to go to the range this week and get the independent sound level testing done, as well as the glamour shots and video - Proto Tac should have all the pretty pictures and stuff up by end of the week!

Any plans for other suppressors?
Specifically

rimfire/22LR

and

maybe a PT-199-short…i.e. a shorter version of this product.

A short 5.56 suppressor has intrigued me since SF released their micro and mini…I was lucky enough to get my AAC M4-1000 for around $600 with the transfer a number of years ago, but the M4-1000 takes my 11.5" SBR to approx the same length as my 16" with the 18 tooth blackout…all that length kinda defeats the purpose of the SBR (in a way)…if you were to make a PT-199 in about a 4" (or ideally shorter) version I’d definitely consider it for a dedicated 10.5" suppressed SBR…
My inspiration for the dedicated 10.5 suppressed was Grant at G&R https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=640577

Just food for thought…I’m sure you have enough on the table for now.

Good luck
I wish yall great success!

ADH

Thanks…

Yes, already working on most of that - will get info posted up as it comes available.

v/r
kld

SWEET
Good luck bro

Kevin,
I cannot own cans in my state, but I wanted to let you know I am glad to see this project take off, I love the concept and it looks like you are the man to bring it to the table, looking forward to seeing what else you come out with

I’m in.

When?

Shorty 300 BLK, pleeease.

I’d ask manufacturers for a custom one off shorty 300 BLK, but again- that would kind of exceed the budget.