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The nation’s leading lobby for gun manufacturers said in an interview with The Washington Post that it will not oppose legislation to expand background checks for gun purchases.
"That’s more the NRA’s issue,” Steve Sanetti, president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), told The Washington Post. “From the commercial side, we’re already there, and we’ve been there, and we were the ones that have been the strongest proponents of an effective, complete background check.”
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We’ve already heard from the Senate committee and VP Biden that it MUST include records retention. We know that has zero to do with preventing guns from getting into the wrong hands and there’s no way they can be used to measure efficacy unless the federal government keeps the records, which is their ultimate goal. We already know for a fact that the primary drivers of this legislation favor registration, so the NSSF saying this is tantamount to agreeing with gun registration.
I’m so pissed right now, I can’t see straight!
Looks like I’ll be firing off a letter to them tonight!
While I agree with expanded Background checks I’M totally against any from of a National Registration or data gathering. Its always been true the the arms manufacturer have never cared what happened to their product once it left the doors expect when it hit the news for a mass shooting.
They need to further clarify their position or face some serious PR blow back.
Then I also want expanded checks on people buying private sale cars. Because I don’t want a convicted or prohibited drunk driver to get behind the wheel of a huge projectile like that and killing some after their next bar outing.
I know its not popular here but I agree with expanded background checks on private sales. I know its not popular here but I think it is a good idea so long as its not tied to a registration scheme.
Pat
I have been making this comparison for years when talking to people who are scared by firearms. It’s amazing to me that people take their safety on the road for granted as they do. Statistically, we all know MVAs account for far more deaths in this country than anything gun-related, and the traffic fatality numbers are FAR worse in most other countries. Of course, everyone depends on a car, and nobody wants to consider anything that will make their own life more difficult.
Rachel Maddow show just announced that tomorrow, a poll will be released that huge majority of republican districts support background checks on all gun purchases, like in the 80%+ levels.
Sounds like the people have spoken. Even 87% of Oklahomans apparently agree on universal background checks.
I can guarantee that less than 80% of the entire country understands the background checks that are currently happening. They only know that we should “have more” because the media told them that’s what they should think about something they don’t even understand.
To sit there and think extended and more extensive background checks will not lead to further registration is either blatant ignorance or just plain naive. I am with Iraqgunz.
I disagree. My private property is just that- private. Federal laws already clarify private sales.
In addition none of the crimes which have been committed by any of these whack jobs would have been prevented by an expanded background check especially as long as the mental health aspect isn’t addressed.
In addition you have states like California (and I suspect many others) that claim they know where almost 20K prohibited persons are and yet can’t seem to round them up and take their weapons.
We have federal prosecutors that make deals with these clowns and plea-bargain and then get cut loose. Additionally we have no idea how this scheme will be implemented, how it will be paid for and no assurances at all that they won’t in fact create registry.
Yet, you and others think that the government is going to provide a magical solution and fix the problem.
The shooter who shot Gifford was mentally ill and had that information been in the system he would not have gotten the gun he did. I know first hand that a lot of criminals buy their weapons through private party sales. So yes good can be done by closing this avenue to criminals and the mentally ill at a cost of only a minor inconvience to law abiding gun owners. I understand your opposition however as their are people who would use this as an avenue to register weapons.
Pat
What number is “a lot”? It doesn’t really matter, but answer anyway. The reason it ultimately doesn’t matter is because I don’t give a shit what some criminal does, it’s not a valid reason to give the government a gun registry.
Making a de facto gun registry because some criminal may do something is pretty stupid.
Criminals stab people in the face and take their guns too. What statist solution in the grab bag do you have that will control this action?
Be Wary of Media Reports.
We All Agree – Let’s Fix NICS
NSSF On the Issues: Background Checks
Be wary of a national news media in search of information they work hard to find that fits a pre-existing narrative. Ever since the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School, reporters have been trying to drive a wedge between organizations that speak up for the Second Amendment. They often find support for their efforts from anti-gun organizations and politicians. After all, conflict makes news.
As the trade association for the firearms and ammunition industry, the National Shooting Sports Foundation believes that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) needs to be fixed to include more state criminal and mental health records. NSSF and its member companies believe that NICS plays a vital role in keeping firearms out of the hands of those who should not have them. The industry has long supported improvements to the NICS system.
An article is today’s Washington Post incorrectly implies that this position puts NSSF at odds with the National Rifle Association. There is no conflict.
As NSSF president Steve Sanetti points out in this video, "Regarding so-called universal background checks, or background checks that extend beyond retail sales or to private transfers such as a father passing on a favorite hunting rifle to his son, our big concern is one shared by millions of firearms owners – that enforcing checks of used firearm transfers between individuals will lead to the creation of a national registry of firearms, something that Congress has expressly prohibited.
"In addition, the current background check system would need to be greatly expanded at huge cost to handle the additional checks.
“Canada is actually in the process of dismantling its expensive and inefficient rifle and shotgun registry because it takes up police time better used elsewhere. We also have concerns related to the woeful lack of prosecutions of persons flagged by NICS as prohibited from purchasing a firearm, as well as concerns about imposing on firearms retailers increased regulatory burdens and exposure to liability for merchandise they didn’t even sell.”
There are ways we could do private sale background checks without a 4473 form. In fact if done right you would not need to give any gun information at all just the buyers information to check his or her name against a database of known criminals and mentally ill.
Pat
A lot well I would say going by memory that at least half of the guns I have had to sieze off criminals have been purchased through a private sale based. This is an argument I know many are entrenched on so I will not try to sway you over to my side. Its an issue that if further background checks get passed I will not be angry nor will I if they don’t pass. Its not an issue like the magazine ban or the semi auto ban proposals.
Pat
You presume that the criminals would not have obtained weapons by other means if denied. Also, how many of these criminals were repeat offenders?
Anyways, the very sizable Dept of Justice study shows that it is a small percentage of criminals that obtain their firearms via legal means, and it is certainly not justification for further infringement upon our rights.
You presume that there are sincere motives behind the checks. This has nothing to do with weeding out the mentally ill or felons. This is about creating a traceable database of firearms.
Feinstein, et al, want to confiscate guns. They have said those exact fucking words, in public, on the record. Man…
