The No-Name Gun Finally has a NAME!

Dealers/ Manufacturers/ Regional/ Info Wilson Combat
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The “NO Name” pistol has a name:
Wilson Combat is proud to add the “SPEC OPS 9” to our family of custom pistols. Our new 29.8 oz polymer 1911 sports a 4.5” barrel with 16 + 1 rounds of 9mm on board. For the over whelming response, thank you all. You would simply not believe how many suggestions we received. Congratulations to Douglas Ervin who suggested “Spec Ops” and is our winner. Turns out Mr. Ervin is a fan and will now have his very own Wilson Combat Pistol to take to the range and get to brag not only about his new Wilson Pistol, but that he picked the name of our newest pistol.

SPEC-M-9 $1995.00


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Like the concept, [b]HATE[/b] the name. Why “Spec Ops?” Why?

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Probably didn’t have the funds to “focus group” the alternatives. :wink:

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I like the looks of it…except for the trigger guard (looks entirely too small), and the name. Anything firearm related with spec-ops or delta, etc. as its name just rubs me as being too “wannabe”.

To follow-up:

*Enlarge the trigger guard.

*Please, please consider re-naming it to something less cheezy!

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First Ed Brown’s moronic moniker of “Special Forces” for a pistol that has never and will never be issued to Special Forces and now this?

How about treating your customer base like rational adults?

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Also, I’d sure like to shoot one of these. It’s what I’ve been looking for in a 1911. However, I won’t drop coin on one until I do shoot it. How much are mags? What are the factory specs on accuracy for this puppy?

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I think Wilson Combat-9 or WC-9 would have worked just fine… Can I get a free one now too???:stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously though, it is a beautiful looking pistol. Dont think that we are busting on the name because we dont care for the company or your products. NOT the case at all.

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Not another “special” something-a-ruther. :rolleyes: “WC 9” would have had my vote as well. Too pricy a pistol at $1995 when the Glocks 17/19s and S&W M&P9s are kicking butt at much lower costs.

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2 grand?!

:mad:

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Name aside – and the name definitely is totally ghey – I’d have to play with one before passing judgment. $2k is steep, especially if you adhere to the guideline of always having an identical backup to your duty/carry gun.

On the other hand, if this pistol gives you:
[ul][li] The shootability of a custom 1911.
[/li][li] The accuracy of a custom 1911.
[/li][li] The durability of a modern 9mm (Glock, M&P, HK).
[/li][li] The reliability of a modern 9mm (ditto).
[/li][li] At least some accessory compatibility with 1911’s (holsters, sights, possibly other parts).
[/li][li] The capacity of a double-stack 9mm.[/ul]
[/li]
… then I can certainly see it becoming popular among the cognoscenti.

I’d shave my head for a chance to do a 50k test on one, but something tells me Wilson Combat isn’t hard up for people willing to put a whole lot of rounds through this gun. :cool:

(Bill, if you’re reading this and you do want to do a 50k test, just tell me where to send the clippings … my barber works Mondays and Wednesdays through Saturdays)

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I suggested “Black Talon” in the naming contest.

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I’ve got to say, the name doesn’t really fit with any of the other names you’ve chosen, or seem a very apt description of the pistol. It looks great though.

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The SPEC_OPS 9 Concept
A polymer framed carry pistol with a proven 16 round metal magazine, 1911 style fire control system, completely new barrel lockup and reengineered recoil system scaled for the 9x19 cartridge-all under 30 ounces unloaded. Add Wilson Combat’s legendary heritage for steadfast quality and you get the perfect high capacity 9mm for range or street with the following cutting edge features:

• The unique, mid-length, reduced mass slide design generates minimal muzzle flip with any 9mm loading and is trimmer in every dimension than a standard 1911 slide. Angled front carry cuts enable easy reholstering and press checking while adding a distinctive custom profile.

• The all new, premium grade 416 stainless steel barrel with enhanced lockup geometry is ideally matched to the recoil impulse and pressure of even the hottest 9mm loading. The SPEC-OPS 9 chamber area has been likewise strengthened and the muzzle smoothly interfaces directly into the precision bored slide without the need for a separate bushing.

• The stainless steel frame rail assembly is CNC machined from solid billet steel to exacting dimensions and permanently fused to the polymer grip for unfailing, precise rigidity. Unlike other polymer 1911 style guns, this grip is guaranteed to never come loose when you least expect it.

• The SPEC-OPS 9’s Kevlar and Zytel reinforced polymer grip has Wilson Combat’s popular Starburst pattern molded in for the perfect amount of traction in varied conditions and enhanced concealed carry comfort over traditional grip designs.

• A reduced profile grip safety tang and unique, matching hammer reduce the concealment footprint profile of the SPEC-OPS 9 over a traditional 1911.

• The SPEC-OPS 9 retains the extensively tested Wilson KZ-9 16 round double column magazine for ultimate in 9mm feed reliability. The tapered magazine ensures rapid reloading under stress.

• The new low-profile sighting system is perfectly scaled to the SPEC-OPS 9 slide’s reduced width and height. The front sight is easily end-user removable from its longitudinal dovetail.

If you have always wanted the ergonomic controls and exceptional trigger action of a true 1911 in a low profile, high capacity design this may be the perfect new everyday carry pistol for you.
Wilson quality, extensive testing and uncompromising engineering have taken the polymer 1911 to the next level.

Exploded view of Spec-Ops 9 with internals

Spec-Ops 9 barrel with enlarged chamber/hood area and locking surfaces

Spec Ops Feedramp and chamber

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just so ya know, the name alone means i will NEVER own one.

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I’d be strongly interested in one if it didn’t cost more than a good AR and an optics to sit atop said AR. Not trying to be negative but $2K is ridiculous.

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But someone will pay it

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On a forum where many members own double-digit quantities of AR15 rifles worth as much or more, it amazes me so many people are freaking out about the price of the gun.

If it proves to be as durable, reliable, accurate, and safe as service-grade 9mm pistols on the market and if it really does shoot as well as a tuned 1911 and if they change the stupid name and if I run out of 50k test guns, I’ll buy two.

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Congrats to the winner of the contest. My wife & I both got in on the contest. I chose something like Dark Sun & my wife wanted the Death Ray or Ray Gun. I forget now. If it is like most new stuff the cost will start high & will slowly (or perhaps quickly) start to drop. When I first started looking at buying an AR I was astonished at the price tags. However now not so much. Not to mention a person will pay over a thousand for a 1911 with out cause & then still may have work done to it. Do I think people will use this as an every day carry, probably not. Howver I do see people buying them, more so after some good reviews some out & people get the chance to shoot them. That is if the gun rates good reviews of course.

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I have a longtime vested interest in premium Wilson Combat products, but I do wonder what kind of a vacuum Berryville must be in to have not taken notice of the absolute absurdity of going with yet another SF-related naming convention. Are we to seriously believe that real-world special operators are now going to begin carrying this pistol into harm’s way in any signficant numbers? Please.

This brings to mind the almost comical overuse of words like “tactical” and “elite” in this community, though Wilson’s has repeatedly fallen into each of these traps, as well. (TAC-9 would have still have been preferable to SPEC OPS 9.) Nickdrak’s “WC-9” would have communicated far more, and allowed the pistol to define the name, rather than the other way around.

No offense to Mr. Wilson or Mr. Ervin, but this poseuresque nonsense detracts from the nature of what might otherwise be a fine pistol.

AC

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Well put. I believe if Mr Wilson had a son in SF, he wouldn’t be so quick to use a name of a community that will never use this pistol. However, the pistol would probably sell to some of our forum members if someone tested it independently and tested it hard. Like ToddG’s 50K rd torture test. It would be nice to see a 1911 manufacturer step up to the plate of independent, unbiased testing. Until then, I’ve got my eye on a full sized Glock.