The Grip Pod System, is it a Viable Option for Your Tactical Carbine?

For the longest time, I’ve been against the idea of adding a bipod to a tactical carbine or rifle. I thought “why in the world do you need a bi-pod on a gun that you’re likely only going to shoot out to 400m?” Going to solid-braced prone, breathing and quickly placing a well aimed shot out to 400m is accomplished through practice. So, why do I need a vertical foregrip with an extendable leg that doubles as a bi-pod?

Quickly fast-forward to 2009, during a visit to a group of go-fast guys near San Diego, I saw this Mk18 SBR with a Grip Pod on it. I jokingly asked the owner when in the world would you have the opportunity to deploy the bipod so you can make a distant shot? The gun won’t even reach out that far…!!! He looked over at me and said “let’s do a quick qual from 50m against a 10” steel plate, with 3x magazines with five rounds each. We will time it and see who finishes first.” On the first try, I get smoked, but I’m not really surprised. After all, those guys shoot for a living and they shoot more rounds in a month than I could in a year. So he gives me a one-second handicap. Again, I lose. Then I ask to try this test again, now focus more on his techniques than try to beat him. I notice with the handicap, I am almost even with him to the five shot kneeling, but his start to even up the shot placement during the kneeling phase, and as soon as we hit the dirt during the prone phase, he just takes over.

My friend placed a GripPod on my M4. He gives me some pointers on how to deploy the Grip Pod. I practiced with this contraption a few times and made sure I was able to utilize it, and then we did the test again. The one second handicap was still in effect, but this time I was able to pretty much even up to his time. That’s when a light bulb started to come on in my tiny little brain and I noticed that with the Grip Pod, I didn’t have to go into the braced prone and position my body in order to gain that sight picture. With the GripPod, I was able to drop to the standard prone position with the Pod deployed and get right to shooting at my target. The red dot came right to my eyes, and the sight picture was acquired that much faster.

My friend told me he doesn’t consider the Grip Pod to be a bipod, but more like a weapon stabilization device. He began to explain how the GripPod is more of a stabilizer that he utilizes as a VFG most of the time. However, when it comes time to go prone (and he said he’s gone prone often in his time in the sandbox), he can utilize the Pod to help with placing a quick-engagement shot on target that might be 100m away or just a block down the street. The Pod can then be retracted with one hand if he continues to move or just leave it deployed. The Pod not only helps with prone shooting, but when placing a rifle over the parapet off the roof, a jagged wall, or any position that requires placing the rifle on a surface, he utilizes the Grip Pod to help with stabilizing the weapons platform. He even runs his MK48MOD 1 with the Grip Pod. Although GripPod makes a SAW/LMG (Squad Automatic Weapon/Light Machine Gun) version, he utilizes the standard military GripPod on his MK48. The Grip Pod displays its ability to enhance the weapon system even more on a LMG/SAW, as the operator no longer has to worry about deploying a bipod one leg at a time, or worry about the legs getting in the way while he’s moving and shooting. He can simply deploy the Pod when he needs it. The rest of the time, the Pod’s fast-deploy legs are completely out of the way. Bottom line, the Grip Pod is never as intrusive as the bipod on the Mk48. Adding to the Grip Pod’s advantage it’s relatively light weight, considering its internal components and capabilities. The military-version Grip Pod is actually 2oz less than a VFG with the quick-release attachment. His team even runs the GripPod on their RECCE rifles where it doubles as a bipod and a VFG.

Anyway, I bought a Grip Pod from an internet dealer; I bought the military-version Grip Pod with a steel insert inside the legs. When placed next to a KAC VFG, the Grip Pod is about an inch longer, but the overall bulk is increased, but nothing alarming, especially when compared to a Surefire M900, the GripPod is actually shorter in length and much lighter. The Grip Pod is only 6 ounces (6oz) heavier than a standard plastic VFG, but 2 ounces (2oz) lighter than a QD VFG. And, it’s still smaller than a Surefire M900 in size. I’ve been utilizing the Grip Pod with a Surefire M600 Scout light on my Colt LE6940 carbine, lately. This package is lighter and more compact than a standard VFG, Light, and bipod combo.

I would never have thought a Grip Pod would be required on a carbine, and it just looked ugly to me. But after months of use, I’ve changed my mind about it. The GripPod has grown on me. The more I use it, the more I like the capability and performance enhancement added to my lowly shooting skills. The Pod allows me to place shots faster when going prone, and its bulk seems to disappear over time. The Grip Pod comes in particularly handy when I shoot my 3 gun matches, as I’m able to move from position to position quickly and deploy the Pod whenever necessary. It is just fast, fast, and fast!

So, do I like it? For me, it’s a mostly “yes” answer. I’d like to see if its design can be streamlined a bit more. I’d remove the wingnut and replace it with another locking solution, since I grip high on my VFG and the wingnut gets in the way a bit. Not too often has a product that I initially disliked changed my opinion so radically, but the Grip Pod has definitely made a deep impression on my weapon setup. I wouldn’t use it as a sniper rifle bipod, but on a short carbine, or even a perimeter rifle, the GripPod is a great addition.

The Grip Pod is a viable design and a definite performance enhancer for any type of dynamic shooting, including combat and competition shooting. This is evidenced by the millions of Grip Pods already purchased by the U.S. Army, Marines, Navy, and Air Force. The Grip Pod’s service-wide acceptance and acquisition history is also evidence that this is not a fly-by-night product. The Grip Pod, ungainly looking as it may be at first glance, is a product with a valuable purpose and bright future in modern military small arms deployment. Will I continue to use it? YES!

Very cool! have a bipod on the current m4 (strictly for the range) and was considering the Gripod but had some doubts.

Now I will definitely go for the Gripod!:cool:

I never thought I would like the grip-pod but after being proned out for what seemed like forever on a barricaded gunman/officer down call, I began to think differently. Our neighboring county issues it to all their swat guys and they love it. Haven’t had any practical experience with one yet but I do plan on trying one both on the range as well as for daily use to determine if it is right for me.

That’s a good report SMGLee. I really like the Grip Pod and I’m glad to see that you have adopted it for what it can do.

I’m no operator, LE, Swat or otherwise a guy who needs a carbine at work (just a firefighter who likes to shoot), but I do a fair amount of shooting when I can. I started with a custom .308 and longer range shooting where the utility of a bipod is not only obvious, it is essential. When I got my first AR carbine, I learned about VFGs and used a GGG. It was OK, and that was a long time before there were a lot of choices with QD mounts and adjustable lengths.

When I got my second carbine, a 10.5" LMT, I decided to set up my first 16" gun with a Schmidt & Bender 1 X 4 Short Dot and a Grip Pod. This was my “long range” carbine, although the Short Dot is so awesome you can still use it to clear a room. The long range guy in me just had to have that quality glass!

At a carbine class I attended with several friends, my 16" carbine was obviously faster and more accurate than those with a 1X optic and no bi-pod while dropping to prone and getting on target quickly at any range but especially at 200 yards, just like SMGLee stated. Randy Cain, the instructor, was reluctant to let me use the Grip Pod because “I might not always have it available”. His point was valid, but when I stated “Randy, I don’t shoot for a living, I won’t be picking up strange rifles on the battelfield, I like my Grip Pod, and if I am shooting MY rifle, it will have a Grip Pod on it” he relented.

I did practice the monopod/magazine techniques he taught so I could learn them, but stable is good and I like my Grip Pod because of the stability it provides. It’s also fast and stable when shooting off of car hoods or other barriers. It is not the best as a vertical grip; a little bulky as noted by SMGLee, but it is adequate. It is superior, though, when “going to the ground” or shooting off of waist high barriers.

Personally, I don’t think the AR needs a bipod in most situations. Thanks for the write-up.

You are right, the AR does not need a bi-pod. It also does not need optics, VFGs, rails, lights or anything else. The AR is good to go right out of the box with plastic hand guards and iron sights.

I think SMGLee’s point was that the Grip Pod is a tool that he has discovered meets his needs. That was my point anyway.

Exactly what i thought, then i change my tune!

don’t view this as a bi-pod, look at it as a weapon stabilization platform. you can utilize it even during a MEUSOC qual when you need to make three prone shots from 50yrds. drop from kneel, pop the POD and you have target acquisition right away!

I was not a big GripPOD fan, but I am definitely warming up to it as time goes! It has really help me with a lot of the shooting situation during various training sessions.

The Armory issued these things out to my Platoon in 2007. Everyone was grabbing them up like it was crack. I was pretty hesitant about it because I already had a Tangodown vfg. We went to CAX/Mojave Viper and started doing our workup for deployment. During our training sand got into these things and made the spring mechanism slow and sometime unresponsive. Same thing happen in Iraq. In my personal opinion it seems like a very good idea, dunno if they updated the design since then but I’m not a big fan of it. A little too long for my tastes and the ability to loose the spring loaded leg action doesn’t make me happy either. I’m sure though in an Urban non sandy environment these things are good.

Nice write up on the Grip-Pod. I’ve been looking for a good article to read about these even though I have no intentions on buying one. I’m more interested in the rifle in this picture http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/clt2/huge/P1010634.jpg , it certainly doesn’t look like your standard AR. :slight_smile:

I can see your point, but your worst case scenario was that your bi-pod capability was lost and your VFG was a little bulkier than necessary. What did that really cost you unless you would rather have not had a VFG?

Well I think that the idea of the grip pod is great, a Vertical grip that is also capable of being a bipod. Now you take the fact that you lose the bi pod capability you are left with just a vertical grip. I think something comparable would be like the surefire flashlight vertical grip. You buy that or your issued that and then the flash light portion falls out or is inoperable. It defeats the purpose of being a multiple use item.

I have the FAB T-Pod Tactical Foregrip-Bipod on my AR

I never want to install a bi-pod on my carbine, so the addition of GripPOD is an added bonus as the POD I view as an option. never look at the losing of the leg as a problem since i still have my vertical grip available to me. as to the SF M900, you break the grip, you lose both the VFG and the light.

I had the legs stuck on me once during a desert shooting session. we were moving and shoot on steel targets at various distance while in two men team. lot of dust being kicked up. I had the POD legs stuck once, but i just bang the grip surface hard enough to jar it open again…

That’s a Daewoo, K2 I believe.

There is a fundamental question here, is the Grip Pod half full or half empty? You are right, when the bi-pod fails to deply you are left with just a VFG. Just like you would be if your VFG did not have a bi-pod. As I stated, your worst case scenario is you have a functional VFG that is just not as streamlined or low profile as the more poular VFGs that don’t attempt to serve multi-purposes.

You just need a smaller grip pod or glass lol. I’m not knocking on the grip pod, I’m sure there’s tons of people out there who like it, but for what it is and my experience I don’t like it. Love it or Hate it sort of things I suppose…:cool:

I agree; love it or hate it.

I’m definitely getting a grip-pod for my RECCE build! :cool:

Grip-pod? Meh…But I love the Shag Master hoodie! It’s like wearing a freshly skinned rabbit.

Yea, SMGLee, what kind of tactical jacket is that?