The only similiarity I see between the two are that it involves discharging a firearm down range. The gear is different, the guns are different, and the mindset is completely different. Obviously there are some exceptions on a very small scale. Mindset is the most important factor of all.
In a competition I am concerned with my time, but in a gunfight I am thinking about survival.
I truly hope that you never have to excercise any type of deadly physical force. Making a statement like this on a public internet forum is quite possibly one of the worst things you could ever do, and a prosecutor would have an absolute field day with you in court.
“Ladies and gentlemen of the jury…this callous individual didn’t stop firing when the VICTIM dropped his weapon…no…he continued to fire until he was DEAD or as he likes to say…NON-FUNCTIONAL. I direct you to look at the screen where you will see an internet blog that the defendant wrote. He describes these actions and talk about how he only wanted one story, which is why the VICTIM has two bullets in his body and one bullet to his head. The defendant had to finish the job and get his one story.”
Everyone needs to excercise some more caution in what they write on the internet. It can and will come back to bite you. This is a hard and true fact of life that I have seen first hand in court.
I have been in multiple gunfights and I do not buy that the average individual is going to MURDER someone solely so they get their wish of one story. You will be quite overwhelmed with the situation at hand, and you can’t just walk up to the subject on the ground and put a bullet in his brain. Forensics has the ability to figure things like that out. You can’t hide the angle of entrance, powder speckling, and the damage to the flooring under his head/body when the projectile continues to pass through his body.
“It annoys me when the IPSC Grandmaster trys to tell us about shooting people, when the closest he has been in playing XBOX.”
GMs don’t have much time for XBOX. Available time outside of job and family responsibilities is spent in dry practice, live fire, or feeding their Dillon 1050.
I personally know several Ms and GMs who are cops and/or SWAT cops. A few of them have even used their skills to effect on the 2 way range.
While USPSA and IDPA are games, they can be used to develop shooting skills to a high level.
This is why Todd, Robbie, Dave, Manny, Bennie, Phil, Max, Travis, Matt, Jerry, Frank, etc. are repeatedly sought out by LE and MIL for training.
You are correct. They are sought out quite a bit, and the ultimate complaint from user groups that I interact with is they start to get away from what they know. When they show up wearing speed rigs and race guns, that tends too cause some issues. And more than one fo those individuals you listed has done that to SMUs.
There are always exceptions to everything, but in a general sense there are drastic differences between what shooting paper and people is about. People need to know their lane and stay in it. That is a major problem in this industry.
Very true.
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It’s important to distinguish between reactive shooting and planned/ambush actions. It’s easy to do the “two on each” thing when you’ve identified your targets and their location in advance. When someone else starts the fighting, people essentially focus on a threat until something else steals their attention. It might happen because the threat is no longer a threat, it may happen because the gun stops working and demands attention, it may be because something literally obstructs your view, someone hits you with a baseball bat while you’re shooting at his partner 50’ away, etc.
As for the IPSC GM vs. Warrior God thing, it seems like a silly debate to me. Millions of people survive car accidents every year with mediocre training, that doesn’t discount the fact that folks with substantially superior technical skills are less likely to have those accidents and more likely to mitigate damage when they are involved in accidents.
Is that superior technical skill a free pass from danger? Of course not. It’s an advantage.
Of course mindset is important. Shooting IPSC doesn’t give you bad mindset. Developing proper mindset is a completely different issue altogether. I would humbly suggest, based on many years of vast experience around IPSC and IDPA shooters, that those who have inadequate mindset were already in that condition when they started competing.
Competition isn’t combat … it’s foolish to think otherwise. But that doesn’t change the fact that many people find motivation to excel in those technical skills – or are simply first exposed to what EXCELLENCE really means – in a competition setting.