Im not christian but don’t have a problem with it. Down here religion is important. There are HUGE churches all over the place. I don’t really think an elected leader has to be devoid of religion the entire time they are in office, and since most here are religious he’s unlikely to offend but a handful. Asking people to pray doesn’t seem like a big deal, and they used to hold church service inside the US capital building in DC. I just accept that its a big part of the founding of our country, and live and let live. When they start rounding me up for mandatory church on Sundays Ill have a problem…or how they don’t allow beer sales until noon on Sundays.
Remember you have the freedom to religion not from religion.
Perry’s recent emphasis on prayer is to lock up the religious right. Although they represent a small fraction of the GOP, they are prolific donors. Perry is entering this race late and will need to focus on this constituancy to raise money. His appeal to the religious right is also an indirect attack Romney’s exposed Morman flank. It also plays into his candidacy announcement in the Bible Belt of SC. I have not doubt that he is Christian, but the public displays are all part of political triangulating. They all do it (if they’re smart) and it does not bother me one bit.
Perry isnt great, but he is exactly what we need to kick Obama the hell out of Washington.
As for him being a former Democrat, look into the history of Texas politics. ALL politicians used to be democrats in Texas, that’s just how it worked. Elections were historically D vs D. Just like the Northern states used to be “Republican”, now the roles are reversed.
I don’t like the Trans-Texas Corridor/Highway thing, but I have to give Perry credit in that once he realized it didnt have the support of Texans, he ditched the idea. He didnt continue to cram it down our throats regardless of waning public opinion, a la Obamacare.
As for his Christian beliefs, I’m fine with that, I just wish he was a little more subtle. I have a feeling he will easily secure the religious right, but a little more subtlety in that department might earn him a few more moderate voters who like his economic ideals.
Again, not the Reagan-esque candidate that this country needs right now, but he’s a conservative, he’s a gun owner, and he’s NOT Obama. Oh and he’s certainly got a better chance than nutty-ass Ron Paul.
Before anyone gets hot and sweaty over Perry, keep in mind that the king makers in Europe, the banking cartels and leaders of globalist corporations have already sunk their claws into him.
Rick Perry is a Bilderberger, which will not be good for freedom, or Americans.
Only because there are too many people like you, who vote out of dislike and not for who they want. The idea of voting only for the lesser of two evils is what got us here incrementally and allowed someone like Obama to make huge jumps. I talk to a lot of people who like some but wont vote for them because they don’t want to “waste their vote”. Well if you don’t vote for who you want guess what, you are wasting your vote.
And voting for some one that was unelectable Ross Perot comes to mind got us, Bill Clinton. With holding your vote just because it wasn’t your dream candidate McCain got us Obama. If your candidate of choice didn’t win the primaries then you need to suck it up and vote for your party our system is a Two party system.
And Bush senior would have been much better than Clinton? Marginally at best. It is indeed a two party system, which is a big part of the problem since they know you have no one else, but it doesn’t have to be. There have been party changes in our history. As far as McCain and Obama, I don’t think McCain would have done any better and then the Republicans would then be getting the blame. McCain is a liberal fucktard that epitomizes R.I.N.O. . I have great respect for him personally and for what he did for our nation, but politically he is not all that far from Obama
See you are not getting it. McCain was not my first choice for President neither but he still got my vote. And I don’t see how you can say that McCain and Obama president’s wouldn’t be any different with a straight face. Yea it wouldn’t be what you or I would like to see. If marginally better is the only choice then you need to make that choice. If you want better candidate’s then we need to change the party and stop trying to look for a silver bullet to fix everything.
We didn’t get here overnight and we are not going too be able to fix it overnight.
I vote on principles. If you put a Bilderberger sack of shit in front of me, I’m not going to vote for it, period. That is settling and compromise. I will only vote for someone I believe in.
I do not regard settling or compromise as a sign of pragmatic maturity. I regard it as a lack of conviction.
Believe me I get it. I have been holding my nose to vote for years and I am tired of it. McCain would have been different and slightly better but I do not believe enough to matter. I do agree there is no silver bullet. Ron Paul, even if elected, would not be able to follow through with all of his promises, none of the candidates can. But he is a Republican and would be a step in the right direction, more so than Perry or Bauchman, or especially Romney. Herman Cain would be another one in the right direction. But I know so many people who like Paul or Cain the best but say they will be voting for Mitt or one of the others, because they are told that person is ahead in the polls:rolleyes:. Stop it, stop voting for someone just because they are in the lead! Vote for the candidate you think will do the best job! I would rather go down fighting for what I believe in than surrender because it will hurt less, especially if they are going to the same place.
So would you rather see Obama with a second term? Because thats whats gonna happen. It’d be great if Paul could swoop in and get us out of international quagmires and wars, repeal the NFA, etc, but its just NOT going to happen. I understand, and admire, your conviction, I really do. But in this case, voting for Paul will be a throwaway vote, a vote that could have kept Obama out of office.
Here’s a question, and I’m not posing it in a smartass way. Im genuinely curious. Would you rather have Obama in the office again, or deal with Perry? Its the lesser of two evils, I know, but this country cant take more Obama.
I don’t get it…if McCain & Obama were all I had to choose from who could ‘actually win’…why do I lack conviction or priciples because I can see which one is the smaller turd in the punch bowl??
Would you really stay home and/or do a write in candidate if we were faced with Obama again…I’m not really sure the country will survive another 4 years & think getting him out should be our objective over finding the perfect candidate at this point.
This brings me to a question: IF Obama (doubtful) has a serious rival for the dem ticket surface, which primary should we vote in??
If you want to go down fighting for your beliefs then you need to cast your vote for 1 of the 2 parties during the presidential election
even if the candidate is not your first choice from that party. You / We have to work on the party to produce better future candidates between the elections.
Time to pick the candidate is the primaries. Time to vote for president is afterwards.
Especially guys in battleground states. I don’t see why the only choice is someone with ZERO chance to win or no one. If you see someone you like ask them to consider running early on…like Allen West. Let them know there is support for them out there even outside of their district, and you like what you have seen of them.
I would not vote for Romney even if he won the primaries but Perry is WAY better when it comes to things like gun rights and individual rights. Romney really should be a democrat.
If we can get a guy like Perry to win, and he actually stands a chance…then we can work on a more libertarian candidate assuming he does good and turns the country around. You’re never going to get a libertarian straight away. Play chess not checkers. Also work on your Congressional districts, local, state, ect.
Democrats are much better at politics as much as I hate to say it. Getting someone from your party in there is the first step not just throwing your hands in the air and staying home because the perfect candidate isn’t on the ballot. We wonder why the country is so damn liberal…because they put every effort into everything even if they aren’t 100% on the same page as the candidate. Its better than a Republican to them even if the person is a bit on the conservative side. They sold Obama off as a moderate yet if our side tried to run a libertarian our own Republicans wouldn’t even support them. But you have to start somewhere, and getting at least someone like Perry in there is a step in the right direction. Liberals have been chipping away for 50 years and we are not going to reverse everything they have done overnight. We got someone like Obama because of incremental acts on their part.
You vote on your principles in the Primary’s as chadbag puts it that’s when you get mad. When it comes to the elections you vote for the party. If you withhold your vote you are effectually voting for the other side because they do not have to counter-react your vote . IE they don’t have to bus some bum from the projects.
So are you seriously saying that you would rather the United States endure another 4 years under Obama? Rather than elect Perry for President?
Really? Now I’m no serviceman, but I love my country dearly. To allow her to suffer under 4 more years of Barack Obama because I essentially didnt get my way? Thats selfish and illogical.
