Will both of these guns be available commercially? Or are they just pulling our dicks?
Question 2:
What is different about these systems? They seem to be two different approaches to the same result. I’d rather have HK’s stock system, however. But with the Colt upper.
Question 3:
Which parts are modified? (It it’s the springs, then DAMNIT.)
Question 4:
Finally…
Which one seems like a more intelligent/well build design?
I say ‘‘seems like’’ because we won’t get any real details until after SHOT.
But hey… I’d love to take that Colt over a Para TTR…
I’ve heard on numerous sites (Firearm Blog, TOS, Michael Bane, etc.) that they’ve released how either systems work, and all, but can’t find the exact information. If it is out there, then I’m sure somebody will have seen it.
Also, I can’t find information on a patent.
Plus. It could provide an interesting thread anyway.
You will never see a 416c “commercially” if you mean civilian sales. This type stock sucked on mp-5’s w/o recoil, with 5.56 bleh. The guts are radically different than a 416.
The colt is a more intuitive approach but I no likey either.nI thought the Colt Canada short stock from yrs ago was a better approach.
There is no comparable PDW to the KAC one. knock, knock
I don’t agree. Magpul could have designed a much better and more ergonomic folding stock for Colt, but for some reason Colt is obsessed with designing and building everything for themselves. I’m not impressed with the H&K stock, either.
Civilian HK416 is released (MR223 worldwide, MR556 for US). I doubt that 416C will be released. HK is bound by all those German law restrictions that do not allow “weapons of war” to be made for civilian market and BKA (German Criminal Police) will never accept 416C derivate as “sporting or hunting weapon”. And now, with German press, lefty politicians and prosecutor office all over HK for selling firearms to Mexican Police it’s even less possible.
Which makes no sense because they have the manufacturing capacity here in the U.S. If the weapon are made in the U.S I fail to see how German Kriegswaffen laws would apply.
Yes, but German press and lefty politicians (“Green Party”) are monitoring HK worldwide to attack it locally. Even SL-8 in Georgia soldiers hands made quite a black-PR stir against HK. That is why I stated that “I doubt”. No that “it is impossible”. Huge market success of MR556A1 would make it happen by convincing HK to invest more in US civilian market… but with community attitude toward MR556A1 (and HK generally) it this “huge success” seem unlikely.
