Knew of a thug (from ER Doc that saw him) that was shot in temple with .25 ACP FMJ.
Didn’t penetrate his skull.
And yes, a .25 ACP would beat a (small) rock and No Id not care to be shot with one.
At my advanced stage of life I’ll carry a 9mm at a minimum thank you.
I’m willing to accommodate the inconvenience of carrying a micro 9. : )
Pff…rimfire sucks…it’s your funeral, pal! :jester:
The little Berettas are fun to shoot. When they work. The .22lr’s can take alot of trial to figure out what “mostly” works. The .25’s work very well once broken in. And they hold an extra round. Now I find it’s Hollywood quiet with a small 9mm can.
Fun and reliable? Yes! Great for self defense? No, no gun this size is. But it’s better than no gun.
My real point is how amazing it is that this caliber is still selling. How many .25’s are out there? Still? How many people actually shoot them? And when they do, how much?
I never see them at a range. But the ammo is selling, and possibly more than any .32 (.32 S&W, .32 mag, .32 acp, .327 mag, .32 SC) except perhaps .32 S&W Long. But .32 S&W Long is still somewhat popular in competition in other parts of the world.
Where are you hearing that more 25ACP is sold than 32ACP? I know there are a lot of old guns, but I find that hard to believe. In all of my life, I don’t think that I’ve ever seen another person shooting 25ACP.
The same lack of penetration is documented for many handgun calibers to include the 9mm. And then again, it’s documented the .25 auto has penetrated the skull as have other handgun calibers.
Sure, but the lack of penetration isn’t equal among handgun cartridges. 25ACP is as weak as it gets when it comes to centerfire pistol cartridges. It’s better than nothing though and fun to shoot.
I think you are forgetting bullet bounce which typically creates more grievous wounds than even .357 magnum. God forbid you get one inside your body armor…it would bounce forever.
Economies of scale aside, it should cost less because less materials are required to produce it. Availability does not equate to sales. Perhaps more is available because it doesn’t sell?
.32 magnum is $1 a shot. .327 Federal sometimes not available at all.
There must be so little demand it’s not worth an ammo maker to take a loading machine offline to switch calibers and make a batch.
But .25 acp is.
I think there is more demand for .25 acp than the following:
.32 acp,. 32 mag, .327 mag, .38 S&W, .41 mag, .44 spl, .45 gap, .480 Ruger and several other older /obsolescent cartridges.
The ones I feel bad for are .32 acp, (superior in blowback guns compared to .380) .32 mag, (a wonderful revolver cartridge for those who don’t want .38 spl recoil) and .44 special (because it’s so good from a large revolver or levergun)
I’ve made no statements regarding its ballistic performance. That wasn’t the purpose of the topic.
The purpose was to discuss why / how it’s still popular, more so than several other pistol cartridges one would think would be more popular, and simply to acknowledge it.
I’m “raising awareness” that somehow .25 acp is still a considerable seller.