I currently run an aimpoint t1 on my 14.5 bcm ar. I’ve been craving some magnification.
My favorite characteristic of the t1 is battery life. I love that I can leave the optic on while the rifle isn’t in use. This left my high and dry in search of variable optics until I stumbled into the accupoint.
Are there any cons I’m missing between switching from a t1 to the accupoint? I was hoping to find one used for just slightly more than I can sell my t1 for.
Also. What are your suggestions for mounts? I was reading up on American defense mounts. All I’m looking for in a mount is to keep the scope low to the top of the rifle and qd mounts.
I’m really interested in this as well. I suspect the TR24 will give up some performance when used as an RDS, and it certainly weighs more… I guess my biggest question is how well the real world 1x performance is with respect to a typical RDS.
A friend has one and its held up. But the biggest drawback I’ve found is the post reticle. It blocks anything below where you aim and is useless for holds at distance. Even if you choose the traditional style crosshairs, there are no reference points for holds.
I went from an Eotech to the accupoint red triangle 1X4 TR24. I didn’t know if I would like it because I have used duplex types of reticles for years. I made the transition easily. The top of the triangle makes for an excellent reference point. As far as blocking everything, well, two thin lines are the only thing there and I have found a way to look through them. No solid reference points on those twin lines, that would be a great addition, but I haven’t had a problem at the distances I shoot (up to 250 yds. on occasion). I’ve been happy with my choice on this current rifle or the one before it. I use a Larue Tactical 105 detachable mount and have been pleased with it.
I am a big fan of the TR24 w/Green Triangle. With a Larue high mount and cat-tail, my favorite setup. Great 1x with both eyes open- picks up light very well. I still use Aimpoints, but my astigmatism is a PIA with reddots.
TR24 is a great scope. Recent Burris TAC30 user here.
I’ve been a Aimpoint and EoTech user for years but always wanted to try a variable 1-4x optic. I shoot Practical Rifle and 3 gun matches regularly and I always felt that I was handicapping myself past 100 yards with no magnification. It’s not that I couldn’t make my hits, it just ate up a lot of time making those hits.
After quite a bit of research, and after looking through other competitors glass when ever I got the chance, I narrowed it down to the Vortex Razor 1-6x, Trijicon TR24, and SWFA 1-6x. I was still worried that I was going to sacrifice speed on CQB stages so I deceived to try a budget 1-4x to see if I liked it before I dropped the coin on a higher dollar scope. In came the Burris Tac30, (earlier version of the MTAC), and I’m sold on this optic. I zeroed it in right before a practical rifle match and decided to give it a try. It stayed on 1x for two stages which are within 25 yards, and cranked her to 4x on the third stage which is out to 200 yards. I took second place out of 52 competitors with the fastest times on one of the CQB type stages. The next match I took first out of 44 competitors.
Still not convinced that I was just as fast with the Tac30, I stayed after the match and ran one of the CQB stages a few times comparing my times with the EoTech and Tac30. To my surprise, I was faster 3 out of 4 times with the Tac30.
End story, I will be keeping the Tac30 and see no need to upgrade to a higher dollar variable power scope.
If you are not going to shoot past 300 meters, or precise targets outside of the zero distance, it’s ok.
I highly prefer a reticle that provides for precise holds past the zero distance, so the TR-24 falls short for my use.
I’ve had one for a while, a TR24G. Of all the magnified optics I’ve used, it is the most “Red Dot” like when in daylight. The glowing portion can be downright retina searing in full sun, so I use the sunshade quite a bit to “tune” the brightness of the triangle.
The sharp little point of the triangle makes a great aiming point for minor precision work at a given distance. But, as others have said, the lack of holdover references makes shooting and distance a challenge. It can be worked with to a point, since the triangle is a known size (4.2 MOA at 4x), meaning that if you pick an appropriate zero range, you can guestimate your holdovers within the reticle for a bit. But beyond that, it gets increasingly hard to use.
IMO, the scope shines in the very close (where it gets used more like a RDS) out to about 200-300 yards, and when you are more concerned with speed over precision.
The rifle that my TR24 used to sit on now has a Vortex PST 2.5-10x32. The TR24 is now sitting on another rifle, but it’s really a place holder until get a fixed low mag optic some time next year (ACOG or Elcan Specter OS).
Bottom line, the TR24 was a good design several years ago. But too many other newer designs have come out in the last couple years that are more useful for a wider variety of shooting.
I had a TAC30 for a while. The reticle was too busy for my eye so I traded it off for a PRO. I wonder if the simplicity of the TR24 reticle would give me the best of both worlds (hold over / distance work duly noted)
At 1x, it actually works quite well. I used to run it on a gun with MBUS front and rear, to keep the sight picture uncluttered. But it’s been sitting on a 20" government lately. At first, I could not get used to the FSB being in the sight picture, but the more I’ve practiced the more manageable it has become.
The big thing you have to be concerned with is lighting. In daylight, it is VERY bright and easy to see. But once the lights go dim, or you’re indoors, a battery powered RDS will be easier to pick up. That’s not to say that it’s unworkable. It’s just not as fast.
The reticle isn’t that dull indoors but its nowhere near the same as outside. That being said, if you’re using it indoors the distance to target is minimal and anything close to centre of the optic should produce hits if you’re that pressed for time.
Iron sights require the alignment of both the sights and the target each with their own focal plane, the optic removes one focal plane making alignment much faster and with near zero error in alignment(some parallax). Not to mention the 4x zoom
I’m a pretty vocal critic of the ACOG line in general, but the reticles are not cluttered.
The TA33 and TA11 are my favorites of the line, and I prefer the Crosshair and Horseshoe-Dot reticles over all of the others.
The horseshoe-dot is a decent do-all, and the crosshairs are best for precision.
If combining the COG with a piggybacked or offset dot/irons, the crosshair offers an advantage in precision when you want it, but I would recommend training to default to the dot/irons and go to magnification when you need it.
If going with one optic only, I prefer the horseshoe reticle as the center is easier to find and contrasts more clearly from the background.
